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Jina Seer: hello, everybody! Oh, it's so good to see your faces! Oh my gosh, okay. So we're gonna get into it. Did I hit record? Yes, I did. Okay.
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Jina Seer: So, oh my gosh, first what I want to say is I did something last night that I have never been able to do with hypnosis.
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Jina Seer: since I started being a hypnotist.
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Jina Seer: And last night, I… I've just had this week, and I kind of blame it on Chiron going retrograde a little bit, but I've had this week where it's just, like, the same…
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Jina Seer: just kind of, like, this old shit was coming up, and I was just, like, ruminating on it. So I was like, ugh, I need to do, like, I need to, like, just be in a different lifetime and get…
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Jina Seer: clarity on this, like, some… something new in it.
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Jina Seer: Anyway, but I was like, ugh, when am I gonna schedule that? Steph, I wanna… I wanna schedule something with you to do something with the void, so I'm like, when am I gonna do this?
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Jina Seer: So, all week, I had been kind of thinking about it, and I wanted to tell you, like, some things that came in before I did this, I will call it a past life regression, even though…
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Jina Seer: it felt both otherworldly, and then I, like, came back to Earth, but whatever. So I was like, yesterday, I was like, you know what?
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Jina Seer: what do I have to lose? I'm like, it's…
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Jina Seer: 4PM on a Friday, in 90 minutes, maybe I could do this. So I put on, I think it's episode 282, where it was in… it's the journey to another lifetime from July.
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Jina Seer: And I, like, put it on, and I'm, like, listening to it. And, oh, it was such a wrestling match, you guys, between, like, me being like, oh, I should edit that out, or, oh, I should arrange that. Like, I was constantly, in my brain, just like.
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Jina Seer: It was wild, but that's why I've never… I have tried to listen to my own hypnotic journeys before, but it's always, like… first of all, I don't want to do it, because by the time I edit an episode and send it out, I'm like, I'm so sick of listening to myself.
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Jina Seer: But it's like I'm always thinking about, like, oh, I should edit that out, or I should change that language. So I was, like, I got beyond it, so I was able to have that conversation and, like, get beyond it. But then I had this other lifetime where I was, like, this man-warrior.
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Jina Seer: And it was one of those situations where… and I'm hoping at the end of today, we'll kind of have time to talk about it, but it was one of those situations where you're experiencing another lifetime, and you're like, why would I…
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Jina Seer: be experiencing this.
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Jina Seer: Like, what does this have to do with, like, the reason why I came here? Or came into this hypnotic journey? But it was so interesting, because even at the end, I was getting all of this information, and it was starting to make sense, and it was literally just like…
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Jina Seer: honestly, it's the same thing that a lot of, like, people that I have been hearing from on the podcast, and a couple clients that I've worked with recently, where it's like.
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Jina Seer: where I am in the messages, it's, like, coming to the minutia. Almost like…
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Jina Seer: It's so easy for us to be meta, and like, even if you think about everyday life, it's so easy to know what's going on across the world, you just have to tune in to the news, and how that expansiveness is great, and it's a gift, and we can do a lot with it, but, like, when it comes to…
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Jina Seer: Me, for example, living my everyday life.
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Jina Seer: To really try to switch out of that kind of, like, bigger existential view, and instead come in and just be like.
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Jina Seer: what is my mission? What am I doing here? What's the mission for the day? What's the mission for my life? You know, however you want to think of that. But, like, getting so granular and, like, bringing that presence back to, like, every single moment.
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Jina Seer: And Becky, I know we were talking about that, because you kind of had a similar thing with your… in our last gathering, afterward, you and I had talked, and it was similar, where it's like, we're coming…
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Jina Seer: It seems like a lot of us are being pushed to just, like, be back in your life, and even if it's not perfect, even if you want to change all of it.
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Jina Seer: Like, there's a part of you that built that, and so…
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Jina Seer: You know, be in it, and love it, and enjoy it while you have it, and hopefully it gets even better, you know?
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Jina Seer: But it kind of really hit home, like, these two things that I think we're always trying to do, which it's like, it seems like there's always, like.
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Jina Seer: a change we're trying to make, or something we want to let go of. And in this, it was like…
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Jina Seer: what was it? It was around the… I'm looking at my notes right now, but it was, like, in the terms of, like, making a change, whether it's, like, I want to stop ruminating about this thing, or I want to be someone who… and you have to do all this kind of hard shit to get there, it's, like, having that conviction of, like, well, who are you? And what are you…
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Jina Seer: like, what do you stand for? Whether that's, like, for your job, or for who… your role in your life, whatever that is, but, like, when we can have that conviction, and really, that conviction is just, like, this truth, this knowing. Like, the sky is blue.
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Jina Seer: or if you were like, you're so dumb, you A, B, and C. If I don't feel like A, B, and C about myself, it's not gonna hurt me, because I have conviction the other way. Like, I hold these other beliefs about me. So that was interesting. And then this idea of…
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Jina Seer: Letting go was like, well, you can't really let go of something.
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Jina Seer: Unless you, like, really know what you're letting go of. So for me, like, where I'm at in my life, like, I don't have…
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Jina Seer: right now, like, I don't have a stereotypical relationship with my family, like, it serves me and my health, but sometimes
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Jina Seer: because I grew up and spent, you know, 40 years of my life being super codependent, and just having that mindset, if you would have asked me if I was codependent, I would have been like, no, fuck these motherfuckers. But I was like, on the same note, like, living my life in accordance with them.
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Jina Seer: And so it's almost like, because I had to undo that and make those changes on a bad day or a bad moment, sometimes I think, like.
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Jina Seer: did I give enough to them? Did I fuck something up in that relationship? Like, I'm always putting it back on me, and…
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Jina Seer: that's how I stayed in those relationships for way too long. But when I do that, it's like, I'm just ruminating and making myself feel bad. And it was like, even in that, even in these decisions that we make, that it's like, I had to make that decision, but you feel kind of bad about it, for me, the lesson was like.
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Jina Seer: have conviction.
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Jina Seer: Like, honor who you were, and why you made those decisions, and stop…
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Jina Seer: waffling, or stop being like, well, did I misinterpret a signal? It's like, no, you… you gave too much, you hung around too long, you know? And whatever that is for you, in my case, it was like, I ruminate sometimes on these past decisions, and I'm like, I wish it didn't have to be this way, you know? But it's like…
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Jina Seer: It does have to be this way. I have to have conviction, and, like, stand for who I was back then, and, like, who I am now. And then, in terms of letting go, it's like.
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Jina Seer: if I can't let go of a resentment or a hurt.
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Jina Seer: sometimes it's like, well, that's because I haven't seen the whole thing. Like, I have to inventory, like, what am I letting go of?
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Jina Seer: And so it's almost like I have to…
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Jina Seer: go there and think about it, which I don't want to, which is why I'm trying to let it go in the first place.
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Jina Seer: And I have to really take inventory of, like, what was the damage? Like, what did I do here? Like, in my 30s, I was just friends with people who just didn't have time for me, which is fine, but, like, that's a lot of self-respect I didn't have, like, waiting a decade for certain people.
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Jina Seer: And so it's like, I can't let that go.
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Jina Seer: Until I know exactly, like, how did that hold me back? How did… and not… not on them, but, like, on me. Because I get mad at myself, like.
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Jina Seer: what could you have done for those 10 years? Like, what could you have done with your social life? What could you have done with your mental health? What could you have done with all these things instead of trying to make it work in these kind of dysfunctional relationships? Anyway, so, big… I feel like I just wanted to bring that up because we're going to be going in deep.
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Jina Seer: But in a writing practice, which I'm excited to share with you. But think about that, like, some of these things that we're wrestling with, it's like, if we want to make a change, like, can you have more conviction in, like, who you are in that change?
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Jina Seer: And then, in terms of letting go.
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Jina Seer: Have you taken inventory of, like, really why you're letting go, and, like, the painful parts of it? And are you letting go because you feel like you took something from you, you didn't stick up for you? I mean, at the end of the day, it's almost like…
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Jina Seer: people can hurt us, but if they hurt us over and over, at least from my life's vantage point, it's because I didn't have the self-respect or the self-trust to be like, hey.
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Jina Seer: this isn't really working out for me. You know, like, let's rearrange this. In my own mind, I'm gonna deprioritize this relationship instead of just, like, giving, giving, giving to things that…
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Jina Seer: Don't nourish me in return.
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Jina Seer: And fucking good on me, I was able to hypnotize myself last night, like, in a proper, like, full-on journey. I've tried to do just, like, spontaneous, like, bring myself into another lifetime, but I cannot…
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Jina Seer: I… my mind just, like, wanders. It's like, I just need a little, like…
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Jina Seer: like, kind of, like, tap in the right direction. So I was like, aw, shoot! Yes!
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Jina Seer: And it was a life, and I was a man warrior, and anytime I have an experience as a man, it's just so much easier than a woman.
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Jina Seer: I will say that.
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Jina Seer: Every man that I… every man's lifetime that I have experienced, it's just like this…
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Jina Seer: automatic, like, confidence and strength, and I'm like, yes.
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Jina Seer: That's exactly what I needed last night. So I was like, oh, so cool. Okay, so like I said, we're gonna dive into that writing exercise, so I have some questions if you wanna…
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Jina Seer: They're kind of plain, like, if you want to apply them to whatever situation, decision, change, whatever it is that you're kind of thinking about that you want to bring to this writing practice.
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Jina Seer: If you have your own questions, I'll talk you through that. I'll also, like I said, I'll have questions for you.
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Jina Seer: But we'll, we will get into that. Let me just double check my notes here… Okay… Alright, cool.
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Jina Seer: Alright, so this,
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Jina Seer: First of all, let me just look at you all, I feel like I've been blabbering. Let me look at your faces!
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Jina Seer: Okay, it's so good to be here with you guys. I… I'm… I was telling Becky earlier this week…
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Jina Seer: Becky and I are, like, friends on the side as well. I mean, I'm friends with a lot of you, but, like, I was telling her, I'm like, I need to see my people on the regular. Like, just not doing a membership in the last year, and then in the last few months, not seeing… officially seeing clients one-on-one.
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Jina Seer: I'm like, I just need my people, I need people who are, like, engaged in the work, and they're doing some shit, and they got some questions. I'm like, it's just such,
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Jina Seer: It's just like an exfoliation for my soul. So, thank you for being here.
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Jina Seer: Alright, this 5… so what we're gonna do first is I'm gonna start you with probably, like, a 5-minute, like, just guided meditation.
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Jina Seer: Then you're gonna pop open your eyes, and you're gonna just write. Like, whether you have your own questions, if you have your own questions, then I would say look at a question, write the answer. When you're done with that, look at the next question, and then just write the answer.
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Jina Seer: So that 5-minute meditation is really… it's like a fast-track hypnosis thing. So if…
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Jina Seer: If you've been in my corner for a while, I honestly think that hypnosis is something that, in the future, it's not even gonna really exist. Like, we're gonna be able to just know that we can do these things on our own, but for now, we have hypnosis to get us to, like, totally relax and totally get into that space.
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Jina Seer: But this 5-minute quickie that I'm gonna do with you is something that you should be able to, you know, sink into and go a little bit deeper within yourself, and know that if you've never done something like that, that's, like, short like that before,
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Jina Seer: Or even if you have and it doesn't go, if you feel like you didn't go as deep, that's totally fine. Like, some days we're just kind of off, some days we're on. Regardless of how you feel after that 5-minute…
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Jina Seer: kind of guided, hypnotic meditation, just go with it. Like, just observe what comes to mind, write it down, you don't have to believe it, you don't have to trust it, you don't have to take action on it in the future. Like, just write down anything that comes into your mind.
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Jina Seer: And…
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Jina Seer: You will be in a trance-like state in that space, and my hope is, is that you all begin to trust that even more, and just to be able to feel yourself when you're in that trance state, it's very subtle feeling, and know that you can be in that state when your eyes are open, and when you're writing.
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Jina Seer: We often think of hypnosis as, like, something that knocks us out.
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Jina Seer: And it can be, but the hypnosis that I do, it's more about, like.
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Jina Seer: Wake up to yourself so you can do something and not think it was me that did it to you, right? Like, this is your magic. I want you to come out of this being like, shit, I did that. This is mine. Because that's how it is.
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Jina Seer: So you'll just go and you'll write, I'll probably… we'll probably be doing it for, like.
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Jina Seer: it'll be writing time for, like, 20, 25 minutes, I think. We'll just kind of see how it goes. If it seems like everyone's done before that, we'll wrap it up.
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Jina Seer: But then after that, if anyone wants to discuss anything, I have some kind of questions, too, for you all when you come out of that. Just, like, what surprised you, what stuck with you? I'm kind of curious of how this is gonna go with you all. I've never done…
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Jina Seer: I've recommended these things to people, I've done with a few times, like, one-on-one with people, like, a quick 5-minute, and then they write. But I've never done it in the group space, it's always hypnosis, but I really do think that, as humans, our consciousness is evolving.
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Jina Seer: And as more and more of us do this consciousness work, it'll be easier for even more of us to continue to expand our consciousness.
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Jina Seer: So, I would love to get you guys to just, like, kind of push it, and see, like, how much can you get with a 5-minute, just, like, inward focus, and see how much, kind of, that creativity, that inner wisdom can come through you.
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Jina Seer: So, curious about that. And then, of course, anything that you want to bring up, any questions that you might have. Something that's really common is, like, when we do these things, when we have a hypnotic journey, or do a journaling practice like this, we can be in it.
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Jina Seer: And we can do it, and it can be like, oh, cool.
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Jina Seer: And then sometimes it's, like, hard to translate it to your life. Like, well, what does that really… what does that really mean, you know? And I think that that is where…
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Jina Seer: my expertise is the most valuable, believe it or not. I just think, when it comes to all my podcast episodes, how the human brain, the consciousness is evolving, you need less of someone, like, guiding you in that journey, and I think what works the best is when we come out, and a person is like.
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Jina Seer: critically thinking about it, you know, connecting the dots, and then having their own questions. And it's in that conversation that I think that we can make a lot of headway. And then it really looks like you are doing this work, this is your magic, because it absolutely is.
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Jina Seer: And so, if you want to share, you can share afterwards. If you have questions, you can do that afterward.
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Jina Seer: And… Yeah, I have, and I have… you know, I could…
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Jina Seer: fucking talk to a wall about this stuff for hours and hours. So, if you don't have questions, like, I have, you know, conversations that I've had in the last few weeks, even conversations with some of you that I had since the last time we gathered, just…
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Jina Seer: Ideas on how we can apply these things to our life, because it's all metaphor, and so it's kind of fun to, like, toss it around and be like, oh, does someone else have a different point of view that might be beneficial to you?
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Jina Seer: then cool. And if not…
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Jina Seer: Even better. Less work, moving on. Okay, so with that, does anyone want to… let's see…
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Jina Seer: Where we at on timing? Yes, we have 90 minutes today.
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Jina Seer: So before we get into that, let's do this. Before we get into that.
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Jina Seer: Does anyone have any questions, like, about that practice? Do you feel like you're ready for it, or do you feel like…
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Jina Seer: If you have some questions, you can ask now. When you're writing, you can also ask if you want, but…
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Jina Seer: Y'all good? Okay, good.
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Jina Seer: Alright, let's do it! Okay, so get yourself ready. Make sure you have writing, you have paper near you.
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Jina Seer: You're in a place where you can relax a little bit, whether you're, like, totally reclined back or not. I'm gonna invite you to get a little bit comfortable wherever you are, and then just blink your eyes closed. Yes, and if you want to flip off your camera, go ahead and do that.
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Jina Seer: Go ahead and do that.
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Jina Seer: get fully weird. So go ahead and just kind of…
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Jina Seer: Blink your eyes closed, get comfortable where you are. Like I said, this is just a few minutes, so even if you're sitting straight up with no support, that's okay.
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Jina Seer: But first, what I want you to do is just kind of feel yourself where you are. Like, if you're sitting on the floor or on some furniture, just kind of feel the parts of you that are kind of resting heaviest.
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Jina Seer: In those areas, and sinking deepest.
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Jina Seer: Into the softness, if there's any underneath you.
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Jina Seer: And then just bringing your attention to your eyes, your eyelids.
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Jina Seer: And just effortlessly and automatically, just kind of imagine that top lid getting heavier and stickier on your bottom lid.
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Jina Seer: And then just tune into your breath.
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Jina Seer: Feel your breath.
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Jina Seer: Hear your breath.
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Jina Seer: And then if it feels comfortable for you, just take, like, 2 or 3 deep cleansing breaths, like a full breath in and a full breath out.
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Jina Seer: Just at your own pace.
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Jina Seer: And just feel your body soften, relax, release even more with each exhale.
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Jina Seer: And then just return to the natural rhythm of your breath whenever you get there.
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Jina Seer: And then bring your awareness to the very center of you.
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Jina Seer: The center of the center of the center of you.
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Jina Seer: And just connect to that spark of light that's at that center of your being.
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Jina Seer: And just imagine that spark of light getting bigger and brighter with each breath.
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Jina Seer: So that's kind of the nuance on that one, if you want to take it that far, while you're writing.
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Soulful Stephanie: We have another storm brewing.
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Soulful Stephanie: It was the same for the last meeting. Is it storming anywhere else?
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Becky: I got hit by lightning yesterday morning.
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Jina Seer: So, how did it go? Anything surprising come up? Anybody not get a damn thing?
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Soulful Stephanie: No, I think a lot came up.
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Soulful Stephanie: For me.
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Soulful Stephanie: Well, the storm, honestly, it was shining.
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Soulful Stephanie: It was shining, and then all of a sudden, as soon as, like, my eyes were closed, it… well, it was starting to get dark.
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Soulful Stephanie: And then when my eyes were closed, it just, like, went crazy.
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Soulful Stephanie: So, it was chaos.
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Soulful Stephanie: Here, I… and I thrive in that, so it was… it was great. It was great.
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Soulful Stephanie: It… it was a lot… oh, that was a big one.
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Soulful Stephanie: Because I always feel like I'm putting out a new project, but…
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Soulful Stephanie: There's so much more that I have to do before I do it, so I launched it today.
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Soulful Stephanie: But now I have all these things in my mind of what I have to do, and this was just clarification that it's already done. It doesn't need to be…
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Soulful Stephanie: And that was something that came up. It was just… move away from it if it doesn't excite you, because the people watching are gonna feel it.
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Soulful Stephanie: And I was always worried about the logistics of it, like.
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Soulful Stephanie: in order, you know, like, all of that stuff, but really, it's just living it. It's… what I wrote is, playing small to make others comfortable era is over.
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Soulful Stephanie: So shine bright, and laugh loudly.
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Jina Seer: I echo all of that. Like, this year has been me in a personal bootcamp in my brain about Instagram. And, like, how do I make that a place that's actually making me better?
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Jina Seer: And then directly combating those thoughts with, like, okay, I'm gonna use it like this to get better, but I will say that has been a slow process, but I feel like I have been leaps and bounds.
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Jina Seer: fuck, I really have to, like, lean into this Instagram thing. What does that even mean for me? You know, like, I just want to be a little scientist in the background. Like, I don't want to be out here. But I always am, I'm always, like, always find myself in a position where I'm leading, which is fine, like, this I love.
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Jina Seer: what is it about me that I want to bring to that space? What would be fun? What… what is, like… what am I passionate about? Like, I'm constantly thinking about reading about consciousness, awareness, traveling, out-of-body experiences.
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Jina Seer: Being better, all of that stuff. And so it's like, I'm already interested in it, I just have to find a way to, like, position it.
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Jina Seer: that's also, like, compelling to do what I wanted to do. But, Steph, keep going on that, because…
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Jina Seer: whether you're, like, doing hypnotic journeys for, like, a block or something like that, or you're just writing, that's your true voice and uniqueness, and, like, that is your edge. Everywhere, including Instagram.
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Jina Seer: And that's what I'm finding out for myself. I'm seeing these things where it's like, I used to be like, oh, no one does that, I can't do that. Or no one does that, so…
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Jina Seer: It's like, it ain't shit if it's coming from me, honestly. That's, like, the worst critic in my head.
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Jina Seer: if I don't see anyone doing it like I'm doing it, that probably means that this is, fortunately slash unfortunately, the path I should be taking. You know, and, like, really refining that. So, that's exciting, and congratulations on the launch! Like, it's…
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Jina Seer: It's tough, dude, but, like, that's… I'm the same way. I would rather focus on logistics and execution. Like, being in it and, like, just living it is surprisingly difficult sometimes. Yeah.
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Jina Seer: Yeah, cool, thanks for sharing that.
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laura: Hello!
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Jina Seer: Yeah!
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laura: Hi, it's Laura!
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laura: Yeah, so, my question was, like.
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laura: following you very, very much so in the idea of conviction, right? Where I want to integrate my now, who I am, with
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laura: conviction in my life now. So that was my question, was how do I do this? And really, the last thing I wrote was, I need to learn how to be angry.
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laura: And I truly don't think I know how to be angry.
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laura: And, yeah, and so when I look at all the things that keep drawing me back to question myself and
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laura: it all leads back to, I have harbored anger and resentment that I just can't release. Or I shouldn't say can't release, I just…
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laura: I'm trying to find that way to release, because I feel like
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laura: The world has taught me that it's not okay to be angry.
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laura: Yeah, yeah, sorry, there's a plane going overhead, I'm outside.
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Jina Seer: I can't even hear it! Can't even hear it!
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laura: Fantastic.
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laura: So… so that's… that's where I'm at. just being okay with… With being angry.
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Jina Seer: And, does that… how does that feel? Does that feel like, I can't wait, or are you like…
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laura: No, it… well, it feels like… it feels itchy. Like, it feel… I don't know how else to describe it. Like, I feel like there's so much that wants to come out of me, but yet there's so much in me that's like…
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laura: ugh, you know, like, hold it back, or… I'm afraid, maybe, of, like, if I truly let myself be angry, like, what is… what is gonna happen? Because in my life now, where I find myself getting triggered about things, I…
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laura: I get, like, from 0 to…
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laura: insanely angry in a heartbeat, right? And… and so… so when that happens, I'm like, okay, then I'm obviously not…
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laura: Not controlling the anger.
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laura: Or not letting it out.
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laura: That it should, you know, it's coming out in just, like, this… monster.
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Jina Seer: Yeah, well, I would say you're even… this is what it was for me. I've… I've got so much anger, I mean, since before I could even talk, I remember people calling me angry, like, in my family, so I get it, 100%.
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Jina Seer: But I would almost bet for you.
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Jina Seer: how you said, I have to control my anger, you said that first, and then you were like, no, I have to let it out. And I would say.
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Jina Seer: that statement is such a beautiful metaphor, because I think you're controlling it before you're even aware of it. Yeah. And I know for me on my journey, and I come from a whole long line of people like this.
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Jina Seer: honestly, I just wasn't being self-respectful. I wasn't like, hey, that hurt, or hey, I'm confused by this behavior, or hey, why would you do that when I said this, or hey…
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Jina Seer: Why would anyone do that? You know what I mean? Like, what the hell? And I wouldn't say anything, wouldn't say anything, and it was, like, the… my anger would only show up, like, when a part of me was just like, I can't take it anymore. Like, I can't take…
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Jina Seer: In all of us. And it sounds kind of dramatic, but like…
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Jina Seer: that's where I'm at with it, you know? Like, it's ugly truth, I feel like. Hopefully other people can… hopefully, if you don't identify with it, hopefully you don't, but, like, you can kind of get, like…
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Jina Seer: I don't know, it's almost like your subconscious mind is, like, pushing it down. And there's all kinds of…
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Jina Seer: books out there about women, and rage, and physical pain, and all of that stuff, like, so it is real. And we do learn to just stuff it beforehand. So, sometimes what can happen, or not that you're looking for this advice, but anybody who might be dealing with that.
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Jina Seer: if I'm angry, I'll say it, but even if I'm talking to a friend, afterwards, I'm like…
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Jina Seer: I wish I wouldn't have said that. Like, I kind of feel like I fucked up the vibe. I don't want them to think I'm, like, a negative person, you know what I mean? So there's this… there would be this part of me that was always kind of, like, waffling, too, like, when I would be in my anger. So it was really this…
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Jina Seer: fine dance of, like, understanding it, and it was almost like, oh, if I feel it a little bit, I'm gonna try to write. And honestly, it came out because I was, like, trying to write every day, no matter what, and so when the anger was there, it was like, then that's what I was writing about. But it kind of gave me this way to, like.
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Jina Seer: just make it ugly and true, and, like, really see it on paper, and, like, let it come through me, so then I can say, like.
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Jina Seer: alright, next time that happens, I'm gonna do this differently. You know, most of us, we kinda hang around with people who do the same shit over and over.
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Jina Seer: And… that's just life, that's just human behavior, so if we can go back and kind of be like, how would I handle that differently?
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Jina Seer: That, to me, really helped, and thinking of it, for me personally is, like, a self-respect thing.
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Jina Seer: like, I just left a lot of my self-respect on the floor, and it's like, oh, no wonder why I was so angry. And if you're someone, whether this is you, Laura, or not, sometimes people will be so disconnected from their anger, they're like, I don't even really know what I'm angry about.
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Jina Seer: And that could be, like, a free writing journal session, just to see if there's anything. It could just be a mindfulness practice, like, as you move through your day, if you feel angry at all, just, like, pay attention. Otherwise, you could…
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Jina Seer: I mean, I don't know if anyone's ever taken me up on this, but, like, you could read books that evoke rage. Like, there's plenty of books about women in rage that we could all read, and feel that rage flare, but sometimes it just needs, like, a place to flare. And it's almost like, okay, you know, whether it's…
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Jina Seer: You know, systemic issues, or cultural issues, or it's stuff from in your family.
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laura: As you were talking, just that… that… Anger, it often is…
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laura: kind of directed to me, I feel, sometimes, in that I'm not saying the right things, or I'm getting stuck because I can't communicate what I want to communicate, either from fear or,
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laura: you know, how… how is my voice going to be received, right? And just… and… and just always constantly doubting myself. The first thing I wrote was, this is your world.
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laura: And that was the first thing that came into my mind, and I truly, like, just in all of this now, it's just…
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laura: the life that I want. And, you know, truly, that anger, I think, is just because the world has created something before me that's just making my life
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laura: Yeah, there's… I feel like there's just so many things going on.
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laura: It's coming together.
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laura: Yeah, it's coming together.
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laura: Yeah, very cool.
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Jina Seer: Thank you for sharing that.
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Jina Seer: that, Laura. I always love hearing your perspective.
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Soulful Stephanie: Can I just quickly say, Laura, I love that you shared that, because it's… it's so important for women to share those things, especially in a safe space like this. With the witch wound being something that we're healing as a collective, I feel like it's… you just sharing that is hu… making huge waves.
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Soulful Stephanie: I did a session recently with someone who wanted to express that anger, too, so we went in with the intention that I'm finally angry enough to stop abandoning myself.
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Soulful Stephanie: And she just went in there and started fighting everything, and it was the most powerful thing. At one point, she had a sword, and she was just going ham on some…
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Soulful Stephanie: she was, like, with a dragon, just setting everything on fire. It was beautiful, and I think that it's such a fun space to explore and just…
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Soulful Stephanie: Because it is your world. Your inner world, you could just… You could let Laura free.
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laura: Yeah.
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Jina Seer: Yeah, I love that. Thank you, Seth.
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Becky: I wanted to add that I kept getting, she should go to a rage room.
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Becky: Have you ever been to one of them?
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laura: I've never been.
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Becky: I have friends who have gone, and who are, like, the most timid thing, and when they got in there, and they started getting going, it was just, like, all this, like, rage came out, and they said they just felt, like, this huge release after they left.
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Becky: You know what I mean? So, like, just going in and breaking a bunch of shit, and then being like, okay, now it's out of my system.
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laura: Yeah, well, I appreciate that, and Stephanie, too, for sharing your, experience with someone who was a warrior, and fighting, and, you know, slaying dragons, and I often feel like,
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laura: you know, in the tarot world, I would be a… I'm the page. I've got the sword, and I… and I'm, like, I'm gonna stab you, I don't know how to stab, but I'm still gonna stab you, or I'm too timid, I'm just gonna…
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laura: I appreciate that so much, and I do feel like, you know, there… and that was something else I wrote today, was your body…
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laura: Your body has wisdom, ancient wisdom, that is calling for you to listen to it, but your body also has stores of things that you need to release out of your body, and you need to listen to the whispers that
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laura: are coming to you, and… and don't ignore them, and… and… and truly, what are they trying to tell you? And so, you know, and hearing this now, maybe I do… I do need to go to a range room and let it go.
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Jina Seer: And it… it does, like, the idea of a rage… a rage room, it's like…
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Jina Seer: the whole, like, that book, The Body Speaks the Mind, or whatever, it's like, a lot of times, this stuff is stored in our body, and it's like, we don't even necessarily have to, like, pull up the memories or, like, all the shit, but if we can get that…
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Jina Seer: like, movement of emotion in our body. I one time was for a friend's birthday. She's a Scorpio, which is great. And she was like, okay, for my birthday, she, like, had a bunch of friends come to the… the…
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Jina Seer: some back-ass road out here in northern Arizona, and she had, like.
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Jina Seer: 40 pumpkins, watermelons, and she had baseball bats, and we just rolled up, and just, like, our own impromptu, and of course, she's, like, also, like, a Leo Moon or something, so she had someone there, like, taking pictures and stuff.
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Jina Seer: But it was pretty cool, and to be out, like, just in nature, too, it was fun. So whether you have a rage room close to you, or you can get out as your own Louisville slugger in a watermelon that did you wrong, or something. Yeah, yeah.
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Jina Seer: Oh, thanks, Laura.
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laura: Thank you.
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Jina Seer: Anyone else?
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Stephanie S.: I'll share a little bit.
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Jina Seer: Yeah.
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Stephanie S.: I think this is kind of connected, Laura, to what you were saying. I… I don't know, I wrote a bunch of stuff. It's not all necessarily cohesive, but,
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Stephanie S.: Perfect. I was asking, like, what…
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Stephanie S.: what do I want my life to be, and how do I get it? And, like, I have… I thought I knew, and I'm like, now I'm kind of confused, but,
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Stephanie S.: So stuff came up around that, and I was like, well…
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Stephanie S.: And then I asked the question that you gave us, Gina, you know, what's holding you back?
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Stephanie S.: I was like, you know, I just want to be, like, my true… I want to be, like, my sassy self, like, the one who can be angry, or can be, you know, super fun, says what's on her mind, and doesn't give a shit what people think. And I haven't been that person since, I don't know, I was probably 3.
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Stephanie S.: But she's in there, and then I'm like, well, what's holding me back from doing that? It's like, well, I…
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Stephanie S.: number one, I don't want to be disappointed. Like, if I, like…
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Stephanie S.: come out big, and I want to be this person, and do all these things, and like, what if, like…
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Stephanie S.: My people don't come with me.
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Stephanie S.: especially my husband, that, like, came up, and I'm like, well, shit.
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Stephanie S.: Yeah. But, like…
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Jina Seer: It's real. First, I just want to say that's totally real.
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Jina Seer: Yeah.
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Stephanie S.: Yeah, I know you can relate to that. Yeah.
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Stephanie S.: I don't know. But then I kind of landed on…
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Stephanie S.: I got a message, like, well, he actually needs you to do that, to be that, you know? Like, he needs you to be yourself, and to be happy, and to be fulfilled, and like…
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Stephanie S.: that's the… that's the message I got, and so maybe, like.
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Stephanie S.: More generally, like, we need… we need to be who we are!
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Stephanie S.: We need to be our full selves, and that actually helps.
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Stephanie S.: everyone else.
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Jina Seer: I… I completely agree with what you're saying. We do need to be who we are, and I do think it serves everyone else. Like, even the people who I was close to before who I did lose, you know?
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Jina Seer: it serves them that I am, like, doing what I want to do. I just think it's good the more people in the world who are, like, kind, compassionate, earnest, they're good people. Like, we're the ones who are criticizing ourselves into silence and into smallness, you know what I mean?
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Jina Seer: For good reason, because we fucking love our people. Like, we're good-ass people. And so for you to be, like, full animation in whoever yourself is, and all the different flavors, the sassiness included.
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Jina Seer: it WILL serve him, and I don't know…
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Jina Seer: anything about your husband, but here is the advice I have for anyone who's in that tricky situation. Because I was married, now I'm divorced, but we're…
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Jina Seer: best friends, and we, like, still raise 3 dogs together, you know what I mean? Like, these are our kids, they have full-on personalities, you know? Like, I… this isn't just some animal. So, I didn't want to break that up, but I didn't want to be…
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Jina Seer: honestly, like, harm me mentally. So… but what I will say is, since we got a divorce, and I was the… I led everything in that relationship anyway, and he would say the same thing, but he's like…
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Jina Seer: Has been through enough change with me, and trusts me enough.
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Jina Seer: That it's like, I had to get so clear in myself, and just, like, come to him and be like.
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Jina Seer: I just don't want to be a wife anymore. Like, I think you're great, I love having you in my life.
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Jina Seer: But I don't… and I'm not saying that's you, I'm saying for anyone in this situation to, like, if you can get…
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Jina Seer: dead-ass clear on, like, what it is that you need, and then, like, earnestly have that conversation with the people who you're, like, afraid might leave. This goes for anyone.
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Jina Seer: The more honest and true we can be in that moment, and we're good people, so we just have to get to know who we are, and we're going to…
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Jina Seer: talk about it with them, and tell them about it, and do it in a way, like, you know him, this has been your person for a while, I'm assuming, and so it's like putting it in a way where it's like.
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Jina Seer: my ex-husband is a totally different person in our family unit. He fucking grew the fuck up, excuse my language, but he really needed to, and he did. He would have never… he would not be the man he is today if I was not the woman I am today.
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Jina Seer: And so, whether you're, you know, whatever that looks like for anyone's relationship, but…
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Jina Seer: you are a good person, you probably chose someone who's got goodness in them, you trust each other on some level. It's like, we can finesse these changes
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Jina Seer: that seem kind of wild to us. And really, if we know ourselves and what we want, and we have time and space to think about it, we can, like, then tell other people and be like, here's my vision for us, you know what I mean? Like, how you just…
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Jina Seer: in your, situation, Stephanie, how you were like, I feel like we could be this together. You know, I remember having those conversations with Alex, and it's like, I want to be…
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Jina Seer: you know, whatever the vision was for the family at that time, it's like, I want us to be that. And it's like, I know him, I know the freedom he wants, I know who he is, so it's pretty easy for me to be like, dude, this is gonna be a great thing for you, too. Like, it's a change, but like, this is…
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Jina Seer: you know, we are all so intuitive, we see potential, we see patterns, we know our people, we want the best for our people, and so if we can do that, but with ourselves in mind, too, it's like, we…
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Jina Seer: like, even though all my talk is always, like, find yourself, return to yourself, be peaceful, blah blah blah, we do that for everyone who is, like, earnestly in our orbit, and they start to see that magic, and they're like, hey, I want some of that.
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Jina Seer: And then you're like, shit, go get it! Like, I got mine, of course I want you to go get yours. Most people will tear down your dreams because they have dreams they didn't go for. And so they're like, hold up, you can't do that, I didn't get to do that.
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Jina Seer: But if we can be that person and be that start… but it takes a lot sometimes. It, like, takes a lot to be like, okay, how am I gonna do this? But we're here anyway, like, why not…
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Jina Seer: Take some small steps every day.
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Jina Seer: Yeah. Be that sassy self. My question to you, Stephanie.
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Jina Seer: Is, when does your sassy self come out now?
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Stephanie S.: Hmm.
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Stephanie S.: Well… like, the… The loud, fun one comes out when there are other…
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Stephanie S.: like, friends around that I feel like I can be loud with. Yeah, okay.
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Jina Seer: Good.
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Stephanie S.: But then the… the… The angry one… the angry part of that is, like, Not very often, but I…
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Stephanie S.: Boy, I tell you what, my stepson pisses me off, so there's… He's got… Lean into it.
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Jina Seer: But that brings up a good point of, like, when we see these parts of ourselves that we want.
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Jina Seer: My next question for myself is always, in what situations bring that out in me? And I just need to put my body in that space. Like, when I want…
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Jina Seer: to feel something, or know something, or believe something to be true, so I can change whatever experience I'm trying to have, I will be like, and what makes me feel like that? And then I will go to those people, or I will imagine if that person was there.
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Jina Seer: That can be really helpful for me, is to, like, put my body…
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Jina Seer: I can put my body in it. You know, or even, like…
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Jina Seer: we have so much information at our fingertips. Like, when I think of all the influence of, like, all the podcasts, all the people yapping on Instagram, all the people yapping on TikTok, it's like…
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Jina Seer: find people who are embodying, like, a fa- and this isn't just for you, Stephanie, I'm not just, like, advising to you, but for anybody, it's like, find people who…
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Jina Seer: you want to be like in certain ways, like, your own version of that, and then, like, absorb them just being them. Like, just doing it, you know?
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Jina Seer: That's…
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Jina Seer: that's always helped me, for sure, because it's… it's like we get… I always would almost, like, get in these finely tuned lanes of behavior based on the type of person I was engaging with, because…
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Jina Seer: I don't know, that's, you know, just whatever. That's how I was doing life as a kid, and I just never thought of it until it became painful.
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Jina Seer: But it was like, oh… Yeah.
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Jina Seer: But I also know all of that masking and interpreting and holding back, it's like, no wonder I was fucking exhausted, and I was, like, going bald. It's like, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
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Jina Seer: I was so out of it, you know what I mean? I was just, like, so out of alignment. But that's why it's, like, to come back and to have these, because most of the time, things like that, where it's like, well, how would this other person interpret it, or how are these other people gonna interpret it?
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Jina Seer: Those people are in your brain, and that's… and, like, you let them in.
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Jina Seer: for me, that's mine, where it's like, if I open up Instagram… I mean, I feel like we all probably have a thing where it's like, there's a couple people on Instagram where it's like, why do you follow me? Like, why are you following me? Stop looking at my stories, you know, for whatever reason.
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Jina Seer: But it's like, I can't think about them when I'm posting. And I'll tell you, that was, like, such a strength training exercise to be like, oh, look who you're thinking of while you're writing this post, someone you wish wouldn't follow you in the first place. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, yeah, you think this is gonna work? Probably not.
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Jina Seer: Of course! Like, what terrible energy for me to be in.
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Jina Seer: So knowing that too, like, we can let these voices in our mind that are like, actually, I'm fully in charge of that, you know?
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Jina Seer: Yeah, thanks for sharing that. Thanks for sharing that.
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Jina Seer: Anyone else?
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Jessie: Okay, I have to say, Stephanie, my question was the same as your question. It was like, what am I doing next?
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Jessie: I'm…
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Jessie: my life team is constantly in transition, so I'm coming off of the last transition, and I finally have more time to, like, doing a lot of who am I…
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Jessie: work is why I'm following you. But one of… I did one of your, hypnosis sessions, and I think it opened the door to, like,
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Jessie: some of the stuff that I didn't know I was carrying, and it was the one of, like, oh, if you could make a different choice at a certain point. And I was like, like, oh, I don't… I don't really consciously think about making choices, but I do think about, like, oh, if I had chosen maybe career steps, that's the more traditional or the acceptable ones.
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Jessie: And then, like, when I did today, it came up again, and it was, like, the kind of the same question, but mine was releasing the expectations. And so I think it's like, I feel like I have to be…
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Jessie: or, you know, the people around me in my life, it's like, oh, you're not really in the box, and I've never really been in the box, so I don't know why… I would think they would think I should be there, but it's like a good example is my spouse is much more of a business-orientated, he's a social media person, he gets it, he's, you know.
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Jessie: had a lot of employees, and… and I just, like, think that sounds terrible, and… Yeah, yeah. I'm in, like, the woo-woo creative space a thousand percent, so I'm like, I think part of me is not…
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Jessie: like, knowing myself as well, and not… and being a little bit fearful to, like… and the words they used was unfolding, like, allowing myself to unfold is because I have all these expectations that, oh gosh, if I am not really in this kind of lane.
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Jessie: Is it gonna be acceptable to…
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Jessie: people, and I never ever thought I had that problem. Matter of fact, I tell other people, I'm like, don't give two shits what everyone thinks, do what you're supposed to do, and it's like… and then I didn't realize I was holding myself at this same, like, barrier until we… I was like, oh crap, that's me.
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Jina Seer: It's so crazy how that stuff.
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Jina Seer: And then it's like.
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Jessie: I'm like, what? I didn't know that. I was like, I… yes, I've done a lot of this, but I think what is really helpful is the questions you ask, because I think when I go into it, even in the beginning, when I wrote down what I got first, it's so nice.
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Jessie: Like, oh, we're floating in the water, and you're in between two worlds, you're in this one, and you're part of this one, and you're supposed to be working between these spaces. And then, when I asked those questions, they were like.
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Jessie: Do whatever the fuck you want! Like, why do you care what everyone else says? It's like a totally different voice. I was like, where does that one come from? But, you know, that's probably more of, like, both parts of me talking instead of, you know, like.
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Jina Seer: Yeah.
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Jessie: when I do this stuff, I feel like sometimes it's like myself or spirit is really nice and kind, so I won't be like, this is… that's too hard, I don't want to do that, and then…
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Jina Seer: We want you coming back.
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Jessie: Keep coming back, and then I feel like this… the other stuff is, like, where you actually hear the nitty-gritty stuff. And I'm really bad about asking the questions and then not really wanting to hear the answer. So I'm like, oh, what are they gonna say? What's that actually gonna be? Like, when you said, you know, like, realistic next steps, or, like, the actionable ones, I was like, they're gonna ask a lot of me. But it actually shows
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Jessie: Way more of what's buried, and…
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Jessie: Kind of stuff to work on.
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Jina Seer: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty interesting. Yeah, just, I don't know, I think of a question as almost like if you're looking and, you know, you're just kind of like, burr! It's like, oh, shit! You know, you kind of get it from a different angle, for sure.
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Jessie: Yes.
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Jina Seer: The… did anything… so, in all of that, like…
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Jina Seer: in the next steps, like, is there anything… and you don't even necessarily have to, like, say it, but I feel like, for you, there's, like, resistance to the next step.
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Jessie: Oh, yeah.
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Jina Seer: I'm just wondering, like, is that…
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Jessie: circling it like a shark for years, I feel like. You know, like, oh, what are we gonna do next? What are we gonna… you know, like…
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Jessie: And then, like I said, I just seem to bounce from one transition to the next, and I know it's my lifetime theme that I probably signed up for, but this one, it kind of is… they seem to be a little bit general, because I think I am a little bit afraid to get, like, a physical, but it's more of…
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Jessie: you've got to come to terms with yourself a little more, you have to release the expectations, and you've got to be a lot more present, in the now versus, like, I think… I think what it's referring to is worrying about the later, like, oh gosh, if I don't get XYZ done now, then down the road it doesn't get XYZ's not done, where…
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Jessie: like…
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Jessie: kind of the way that I've been working, and the question is really kind of towards myself and, like, my, my business, and it's like, what do I want to do with that? Or my… my work? What do I want to do with this? Where do I want to be? And I feel like, right now, I'm just like, oh, this looks like a good idea, I think I'll do X, I'll do this, and I think.
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Jina Seer: Yup.
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Jessie: good idea. There's no, like, plan, it just…
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Jina Seer: Yeah.
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Jessie: pretty sporadic, and I feel like that feels…
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Jessie: Like, other people or situations might view that as, like, super scattered, she doesn't know what she's doing, all these things.
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Jina Seer: Yeah, this is so interesting.
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Jessie: Yes, and I feel like, oh, if I actually didn't care, or didn't…
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Jessie: you know, let that input decide, I would probably be about 10 steps further in my own self.
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Jina Seer: I think that's relatable, yeah.
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Jessie: Yes, but I can't because I'm like, oh, you know, there's still a lot there, but apparently that I'm unpacking. Thanks, guys, for the session.
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Jessie: Okay.
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Jina Seer: First of all, okay, were you done? Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
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Jessie: Yeah, go ahead.
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Jina Seer: Okay, okay. That is so relatable.
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Jina Seer: And here's what I will say. I am a person like that. I feel like I attract people like that, who are like, this thing? No, I want to do this thing now. And I don't think it's a bad thing. But what I am… because, I mean, I've made it work for myself on some level.
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Jina Seer: And it's like, but what I think…
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Jina Seer: Can ground us in that situation.
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Jina Seer: And I'm just talking about it this week, is conviction. Of, like, who are you? And one of the things,
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Jina Seer: road trips for me are always, like, this time where I'm, like, by myself, and it's a lot of time on the road. In the last one I took at the beginning of July.
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Jina Seer: I just was like, oh my god, like, I am being swallowed alive by, like, this idea of, like, is my next step really being, like, some sort of Instagram fame? Like…
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Jina Seer: I can't have worked this hard to come to that!
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Jina Seer: You know what I mean? Like…
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Jina Seer: I'm just… it's so… I'm fine holding the space of leader.
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Jina Seer: But climbing the ladder to try to get other people to think of me that way is just so uncomfortable.
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Jina Seer: So, I've… it's just something that I always wrestle with, clearly, given my job. But, like, on the last road trip, I was just, like, had so much anger, and I was like, alright, I'm just gonna, like, let it out. So I popped open ChatGPT and just started verbally abusing, and I was just like, look!
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Jina Seer: You know, I'm, like, talking into it.
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Jina Seer: And I'm like, we… you've been helping me, like, map this thing out, like, everyone says AI's gonna take over the world. You can't even help me figure out my shit, and like, you're supposed to know everything. If you can't figure me out.
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Jina Seer: I have no hope, you know?
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Jina Seer: So I'm just, like, having this discussion, right? And I…
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Jina Seer: Anyway, so through, like, going back and forth and hearing what was, like, coming back to me.
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Jina Seer: I came upon this, like, oh.
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Jina Seer: actually, the positioning, because part of it is, like, I love visiting other lifetimes. I love going to the higher self. I love all the out-there stuff, but I'm really trying to make my work more…
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Jina Seer: for people who aren't necessarily spiritual right away. Like, most of the people find me because they, like, type into podcasts, past lives.
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Jina Seer: And that's great, and I love those people, but I want to reach even more people. And so, it's like, that's the tool.
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Jina Seer: So I'm like, what is it like, but what am I doing? Like, I know what I do, I know how I help people, but what do I do? What is the one thing I can always come back to? Because I want to come back to one thing, because I have so many interests, and so many curiosities, and people need information, you know?
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Jina Seer: So it's like, what… and it came back to…
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Jina Seer: what I eventually came to was like, oh, I'm always trying to get people to return to their own wisdom.
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Jina Seer: And that's what my whole life has been about. And even back when I was, like, a personal trainer, you know, I would be like.
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Jina Seer: well, you are not your thoughts, you know, and I'd be… and they'd be like… people are like, I don't wanna…
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Jina Seer: what? You know, and I'm like, you got off track, let's look at your excuses, you know, when did you get off track? And people are like, I don't want to think about that, like, just tell me about calories, you know? So I've always been, even when I wasn't in the self-help directly in, like, the spiritual space, it's like, if we can find, kind of, like, the common thread that we've always been about, and if…
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Jina Seer: if you're anything like me, it's probably directly also related to your own journey, unfortunately. But it also makes it easier in some ways when it's, like, you, but if you can kind of see, like, what has been the common theme.
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Jina Seer: then you can… I don't know, to me, that was very clarifying, of, like, that depth of clarity that was so deep that it even tied back to, like, oh, and I've been doing this for 25 years. I was doing this the moment I got out of college. And it was, like, that clarity kind of…
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Jina Seer: I don't know, it was like a relief, but it also made me feel like.
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Jina Seer: okay, now I have this anchor, or this stick in the ground, because everything I do is really talking about, like, go to yourself. Go to another lifetime so you can learn about yourself today, you know? Go to your higher self so you can… go try to make contact with an alien so you can understand yourself more today. You know, it's always about that.
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Jina Seer: So, I mean, take it or leave it, that's for.
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Jessie: Yeah.
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Jina Seer: who's, like, struggling with that, because it's a real thing. But here, I don't think that you would thrive, I don't think that most people would thrive just picking one. You know, it's like, we almost have to find, like, the underneath thread of it all. Like, what are you most convicted about? And then being like.
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Jina Seer: oh, now I see how everything is related to that.
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Jina Seer: And… That's my two cents on it.
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Jessie: I love it.
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Jina Seer: Take it or leave!
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Jina Seer: Okay, so we just have a few minutes left. Whether you're listening to this replay, whether you've shared here or not, if you want to share more later, like, a comment on the replay page, I always want to know, especially if you have, like, follow-up questions or anything like that.
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Jina Seer: So before we close this, let's just take, like, one second…
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Jina Seer: I'm gonna put us through, like, a little breathing exercise. I'm gonna ask you a question.
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Jina Seer: And you're just gonna take a screenshot of it in your brain when you get the answer, and then we'll, like, close it with a breath and go out.
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Jina Seer: So, let's do it! So, get comfy wherever you are, just kind of sit up tall wherever you are, relax your shoulders, maybe put your healing mitts on you somewhere.
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Jina Seer: And then just blink your eyes closed, and like, feel your body under your hands.
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Jina Seer: And feel your breath.
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Jina Seer: And then just imagine your awareness going from, like, behind your eyes, like, bring your awareness, your consciousness, like, down into your heart, like, into your chest space.
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Jina Seer: And even if you just feel like you're only imagining it, that's okay, just be there, and, like, take a breath and relax there.
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Jina Seer: Just feel how much more relaxed you are when you're kind of in the center.
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Jina Seer: And then in this quiet space, just allow whatever to come to your mind in response to this question, and then just know that you'll remember it. Know that if it doesn't make sense now, it will make sense someday.
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Jina Seer: But given everything you've reflected on, you've dug into today.
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Jina Seer: What do you want to remember or take with you?
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Jina Seer: What's your big takeaway?
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Jina Seer: Whether it's an action item, or a new perspective.
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Jina Seer: Maybe you just noticed yourself today, like, noticed a reaction to something that was interesting.
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Jina Seer: But just take it with you.
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Jina Seer: Know that it's there.
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Jina Seer: And then while you're in this heart space, I just want you to feel, like, some warmth there. I am just so grateful for anyone doing this work alongside me, anyone willing to share.
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Jina Seer: I have so much appreciation for you all.
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Jina Seer: And so I want you to feel that from my heart to yours.
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Jina Seer: And then we'll end this with one breath together, so you can blow all your air out of your lungs.
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Jina Seer: Then take a full breath in.
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Jina Seer: And a full breath out.
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Jina Seer: Then you can blink open your eyes!
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Jina Seer: Thank you all so much for spending this time for me! What a joy to do this on a Saturday. Loved seeing your faces.
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Jina Seer: Yeah, and just send me a message or anything if you want to chat more about it, but otherwise, enjoy the rest of your day.
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Jina Seer: Bye. Bye, everybody!
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Stephanie S.: Thanks, everybody!
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laura: Thank you, everyone. Bye! Thank you, guys!