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Jina Seer: Hey everyone, I am going to be listening to a session with you. So this session that I'm sharing with you today, Soulful Stephanie took me through it. I highly recommend her as a hypnotist. And I had asked her to take me back to the red planet. I wanted to get just insights, understanding, even more so on this idea of inner knowing.

going to your higher self, knowing your true desires, living in alignment, being grounded in your clear center. And the reason why that was on my mind is because you know what? It's on my mind a lot. And at the time it was December of 2025 in January of 2026 on the Seer Sessions podcast. The theme was to go deeper into our own inner knowing and

because I was putting together those podcast episodes, I had those questions even more so in the front of my mind. And so I'm sharing them here, a little bit deeper dive into the inner knowing, into that understanding. And to me, it's so directly tied to our nervous system, our earth suit, how we feel in our earth suit.

how we interact with our Earth suit is very much tied to our ability to trust ourself and to pick up these cues and understandings, especially in the unseen realms or in the unseeable things around us. So I'm gonna start that out. I'm gonna be popping into different areas of this recording and just kind of share my thoughts as I was re-listening to it.

but I would love to hear from you. If you listen to any of this and you see parts of it in your own journey, I would love to hear your experience with it. And of course, if anything you hear spurs a question for me, please let me know and you can do that all in the comments below. Okay, so to begin this, Steph took me right to the red planet and right into the conscious awareness of acts.

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And if you need a little refresher, again, Seer Sessions podcast episodes 194 and 196, they're not the first Red Planet episodes, but they are potent Red Planet episodes, and they are episodes that kind of illuminate my history a little bit with it. And then in the show notes of those episodes, you can see links to other Red Planet episodes if you're just tuning in and wondering what that is.

But I had Steph just take me right there. I wanted to go to the red planet and see what Axe had to say about inner knowing, about intuition, and about going deeper.

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And on the count of three, you'll move through this door entering Ax's kitchen. One, opening the door. Two, crossing the threshold. And three, tuning into your senses. And whenever you're ready, let me know what you're aware of here. I'm standing like at the door of the dwelling that I live in and the door, it's like a flight of stairs up.

So I just have to walk down some stairs into the kitchen, but it's all open and there's some windows and it's not the same, but it's got the same features as other lifetimes I've had living in a similar type of dwelling on this planet. And I don't know if it's out of the ordinary, but I'm just standing at the top of the steps, just the house. It just feels so quiet.

Yeah, tune into that a little bit more. So I think I have just come in from, I'm like as Axe, I've just come in from like being gone all day working and it's really, really high winds. And so it's really loud outside and you have to wear like basically this protective outfit. It's like a jumpsuit that goes from like your ears all the way down. You wear your boots inside of it.

and then you put on this head covering like helmet. And so I think as I get in here, I'm just, it's almost like I was holding my breath, climbing the flight of stairs to get to the door. Yeah, the seasons on this planet, I know I've talked about before, but it's like the beginning of winter here and winter there though, whatever that season is, it's like high winds.

And the sand kind of piles up. So it might look like, you know, my front door is three steps off the sand for part of the year, like their winter. But like say in their summer, whenever there's not a lot of sand and wind, then it might be like 15 steps. And so the sand is starting to pile up and it's loud and windy.

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but it's not so piled up that I still have to hike up 15 stairs to get to my door. And I was holding my breath. It was just super windy. Yeah, so now I'm just getting home and I took off my jumpsuit. I think there's kind of this closet thing at the top of the steps made for me to put my clothes in there.

And so I come down and I don't know, it's not a dog, but it's like the energy of a dog. Yeah, it's, this is wild. I don't even know really what I'm looking at. I don't know what I'm looking at. It's not a toy. It's not a ghost. It's not a dog. But it's some kind of little being that is very much like a little dog. Like as soon as I came in.

or came down the steps that like came toward me. Wow, this is hmm. I'm trying to see what this dog is. Like you can't see it, you could just feel the energy. I can mostly just feel the energy of it and the way acts it like her response to it is like how I would respond to my dogs running up to me. Okay. But I can't really see it.

It's just like magic to me how things will come in spontaneously and we might not even understand them as the details are being put into our mind. But it's like, as the picture populates, it starts to be like, there is something that's like involved in this. This is not just me making it up. And this part of this first opening scene, having this interaction with this like

energetic dog of sorts. I don't even know what it is. That really illustrates to me like, wow, this is metaphor on such a deep level. And I don't know if that's just like the magic of the universe. I don't know if it's that some benevolent being looking out for me. I don't know if it's me making meaning out of everything, because if I don't do that, I will only cry and never laugh. But it's really wild to me how that unfolds. And honestly,

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without that in my life and without those reminders from the work that I do and these sessions, like when I participate in them, sometimes it's honestly like the most magic thing I experience on this earth. And it's so easy for me to slip into just kind of like nihilism of like, none of this matters, like nothing matters. And I think sometimes,

When we feel that way, it can be kind of this empowering launch pad to like do whatever we want. And for me, because I am doing what I want, having that mentality makes me feel like, am I dumb for doing this? Should I be doing something else? And it's just a gross place to be. So the magic of these sessions.

and specifically little interactions like this that are unexpected and totally relevant to the metaphor or the story that's unfolding in response to the intention that I had, I think is really, really interesting.

It is kind of like a floppy energy, but again, it's not like a dog. When I tune into it, where this being come from, I think it's every once in a while, there's one of these little beings that kind of stow away on a supply shipment. And if that happens, someone might take them in kind of like a rescue and

But I don't get the sense that they eat food because I'm like, isn't everything rationed there? And it was just kind of like they subsist off of other things. Wow. That's cool that she has a dog though. Yeah. Some of your questions were about intuition and our quiet knowing. So maybe we.

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Try to tune in a little bit deeper into Ax's intuition and invite that intuition or quiet knowing to tell us a little bit more about this floppy dog-like energy. Okay, okay. This is like another one that's like so much information coming in. Okay, so it is, it's like this isn't what it is, but because I don't grasp, you know, their language, it's kind of like...

if this little energy thing was just like a spark and if you could see the spark you could like harness it say grab it in the air and hold it between your hands and bring it home and let it float around your house and then with your what I would call human intention but and I don't know

I'm sure they don't consider themselves human, so, but whatever the equivalent. Human intention on that spark that's now inside your home, it's like watering a flower. And so they pay attention to that spark. And it's like based on not intentionally what they want, but

they see things in that spark as the spark moves around they start to be like, the spark likes this at night. They continue to like just give it that energy, give it that attention, give it that love and eventually it takes more and more of a shape and it takes a lot of energy to make something solid and so it might not ever be something that's solid but it is distinctly

an energetic being. And the way I perceive it, it's almost like a distortion. Like if you were watching something on a screen and then someone maybe like poked a pen on the screen and it got kind of like weird in one spot. She's tying it back to other conversations I've had with myself in the past. Pets and animals.

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And groups of animals and my dogs in particular, just cause I live with them. And this idea of when we're attuned to the subtleties, like with our pets, we, that happens. Like if a pack of my dogs all came as strays from Eastern Kentucky and Eastern Kentucky is known for like a lot of packs of wild dogs. and in that it's not that those beings don't deserve.

You know, love and care, but in that moment, there's no right or wrong in that moment. They are a part of a group mentality. And it's almost like the majority of their consciousness is a group consciousness. But when you remove them from that group and put them in a different group, like a family, then they become a part of that consciousness. But if there's a human in that family.

who's directly giving them attention, love, focus, observing them, reflecting back the good parts of them, they will continue to distinguish and individuate from the whole, but in a way that's enjoyable for them and even beneficial for the whole, for more reasons than just part of the whole is feeling enjoyment.

And I even think that with my plants, my plants have such personalities. But did they have those personalities before I started observing them and attuning to the subtleties and really paying attention to how they are season to season or, you know, watering to watering or whatever. And so she's saying like, yes. Yeah, like that, that is the power of like that spark of a

whatever it is that makes a human a human, whatever makes creativity, whatever animates this earth suit, whatever has exited this earth suit when this earth suit is quote dead. is who we are. But we can, if we're like, it's like a, if we're a pitcher of water, that's the water inside.

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And it makes a difference if that water is clear and clean and it's a, you know, better to hold, know, whatever that might mean, whatever that feeling is to someone. This is just a metaphor, but if you share that, like, you can make other things grow. And unlike a pitcher of water, we're connected to a divine source that's limitless and always creating. And so we don't have to worry about.

you know, as long as we're being replenished on a soul level in our life, like, it's just a natural give and take.

I love the idea of the pitcher of water and to know, think even on a subconscious level, we crave that. We really do crave that. So many of my clients who come in are basically like women who over give. I mean, probably because I'm a woman who has historically always over given. And it really is a journey to move out of that mindset and out of that consciousness.

Whatever put us in this over giving or people pleasing or perfectionism, however you see it, whatever put you there is a state of consciousness. It's a way you perceive the world, just like you're sitting here listening. If you were, you know, incredibly drunk or high on some drug, you would be having a different experience in this interaction. You would be thinking about different things. You would be...

having different levels of interest in what I'm saying. But we can think of that with the beliefs we hold too. And so it's not that we have to become different from everyone around us. It's that as we get more in tune with who we are in the magic of that human spark within us, that spark from creation, that spark within us that animates this earth suit that's giving us this conscious experience.

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on this planet, in this solar system at this time right now. And we feel that, I think, deep within. And so we kind of seek that. It's why we have an interest in art and creativity and hobbies and community and connection. We live in a world where money is God. Most of us wake up and we do things that we wouldn't do if we didn't have to do them for money.

Some of us don't, some of us would do these things anyways, and that's great, but like most, those people still have bills to pay. Like that is generally how we're programmed to live, for money, oriented to getting money and positioning ourselves to get more money in the future. But there's this deep desire within us to be creative, to feel passion, to work in our passion, to help other people, to be in community, to do our art, to...

share our things to go deep within. And I think that that is the subconscious knowing that we are so much more than just this meat suit on this planet in this solar system by accident. We feel that there's something different and like deeper that we could have in this life. And I think that's what's missing. And so as we do these things where we get to know ourselves like on a soul level, then we can actually

understand what nourishes us and understand our gifts. And I think of our gifts and our talents and our purpose in life is like, who are you when you are nourished on a soul level? When you are like nourished, your energy is abundant so much that you're overflowing and you're giving to other people from that overflow. What does that look like for you? That's like a really unique blend of your purpose, your soul's history.

your earth suit, your talents, the brain in this life, the body in this life. When I think of it like that, it just makes life seem so much better. And that idea of being a pitcher and having like really good insights. So when it does overflow, I can be helpful. And to know that that's the energetics of my life.

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allows me to identify it and see it for real unfold in my life and lean into it. I'm sure just like you, most humans are kind, compassionate, loving. They feel like they're doing the right thing, not only for themselves, but for their community, for humanity. It doesn't matter how different their views are. And so if we had the nourishment in our souls to know what we want and to be able to kind of

like overflow and give. That would be such a beautiful world.

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So anyways, in that, I'm like, well, so is that intuition? know, cause I have those questions about like intuition, like, is there a better word for this? Like, what are we doing? How can I understand it? One of the things I like about the red planet is they talk about all these things that we talk about, but it's not in the language of like spirit or soul, which I don't have a problem with, but I'm starting to want to...

I know, I'm just starting to want to talk about it in a non-spiritual way, non-religious way of course, but even a non-spiritual way. What Axe is telling me is what I call intuition or what we call the sixth sense or that. She is like, it's just such a crude way to point to what that is because it's like,

pointing to your earth suit and saying it sees things and it's like well it does there's like so many other things that you can do with it and yes you should start with seeing though because if you're gonna do anything you know so it's not bad it's just engage with it more so you see those subtleties so you can use it in different ways

And it goes back to the whole, something I was talking about on the podcast, like a lot of the fall was like, kind of nourishment of your body. And this idea one week was like, what are you chewing on? And it's more than just food. It's like, what kind of thoughts are you always thinking? And, and are they like, beneficial to you? Do they feel good? Because you can have both. Like you can have things.

thoughts that feel good and thoughts that are beneficial to you in the long run. But oftentimes we don't, we don't do that. We don't see like, and by we, I mean, me and the clients and stuff I've had conversations with, but I know for me, I can look back on my life and think that all my negative thoughts that I used to always carry, I thought were the capital T truth.

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Well, yeah, I feel this way, but the world is this way. Well, yeah, I feel this way about the situation, but this person's an asshole. And yeah, that's true. But also I could be someone who rises above that, not giving people compassion so they can continue to be an idiot, but like not be so affected by their idiocy, you know, and maybe rising above the need to judge them.

You know, is obviously in front of me on my journey. And she's like, yeah, so that now I'm just like, well, explain it to me like that. It seems like a lot. And then she's like, okay, well explain the human body to me, you know, in terms of like, what can you sense? How can you use it? It's like, it's like impossible to say it. can speak in metaphor, you can give examples, but.

to really experience it, you have to experience it. And so what I'm saying to her is like, okay, well, I really want to experience it. And this might be the first time in my life where I'm outwardly asking that question and asking for more of those experiences because I know how to keep myself protected in those situations.

I trust that and I believe that. Like I've known how to do that for a long time, but there were always parts of me that didn't trust it, didn't believe it. And now I do.

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In other words aliens beam me up if you're here and you're on my vibration or higher Let's chat Okay, seriously though I have been I feel like if I could sum up my like spiritual journey most recent transformation It's really been in the vein of like self-trust

And in that has benefited me on so many levels, but for this conversation, really eliminating a lot of fear, really trusting, like all the experience that I have and trusting the fear that I do not have, like the calm confidence that I have around even entities, things on the other side, just really, really taking that in.

and like receiving that, receiving all of that work that I did and trusting it. And I'm starting to mostly see how I have not been trusting it, how I have all this information or all this experience and still I don't trust myself or I've done all these things and still I need to do another course or hire this coach or learn this thing. And not that those things

aren't a part of expansion, but sometimes we reach a spot where it's just like, we have to know ourselves and then trust that knowing and just take the next step and know that because of that knowing and because of the trust in myself and all the reasons why, like in my recent history or my whole lifetime, reasons, evidence of how it's good when I trust myself.

really stepping into that has been the biggest piece of my transformation, specifically in the last few years. But honestly, as I sit here and talk, it could be just like period point blank. It has been getting to know myself so I can build a life that's in alignment so I can trust myself. Because before I didn't know myself and so I would make all kinds of decisions.

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that were right for other people or right for someone who was like, I don't know, looking for someone else to tell me what to do. So it's really important for us to get to know ourselves so we can trust ourselves. And especially in this world, it's like this world is so focused on, you know, things that are a little bit more shallow. It's focused

It programs us to focus on things that allow us to show up on our deathbed going, there are things, a lot of things I wish I would have done differently. And doing thousands of past life regressions, seeing thousands of death scenes, I can tell you it's always a good life when there's community, when there's connection to the earth, connection to self, a love and acceptance of self.

and to be around people who love and accept us and we love and accept them, those are the things that people remember. Those are the things that people continuously report. This made a good life. And it doesn't matter what the external looks like. It really, it's always, if those things were there, like love and connection with self and with community, with their world in their everyday life, whatever that means for anyone,

that those are the things that matter the most. And we can be the most influential and the most happy in those situations if we know who we are. And we know that because of that, we trust ourselves. We trust the feelings we have. We trust the intuitive knowings we have. Yeah. And I really do. I've never asked for more.

I've never asked for more like intuitive knowings or anything like that. I might ask for wisdom on a certain subject or answer to a question, but just like more in the vein of intuition. And this was just an interesting kind of like, wow, I hear people do this all the time. Like I hear clients in session all the time say, I want more, give me more intuition. think the more we know ourselves in any stressful situation.

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anything we ask for that allows us to expand and grow and kind of like move the parameters out of our comfort zone. All of that becomes easier if we have that strong, solid center, that inner knowing, self-trust, man, it's huge. And that's why I'm doing kind of this whole theme this month on Seer Sessions podcast and in Patreon because it's been such a big part of

me becoming kind of this self-actualized, authentic version of myself. If someone would have just said, trust yourself, and I would have just looked into every time I didn't trust myself, I feel like my path would have been a lot shorter to where I'm at right now. I spent so many years healing so I could get along with toxic people or not be affected by toxic people. What? Like, if we just get to know who we truly are,

and work on that love and that trust, it radiates out. It changes who we are in community. It changes our experience in life and it changes this world.

the other questions on that list was something to the effect of what are the experiments we're doing and how we're working you're working together. So that question for me is like both sides like I want to know both sides like also on their side like what are they getting out of it? Yeah. And not from like a I don't feel guilty at all. I do feel like it's an even exchange and I feel like we've maybe talked about it before but I just want more understanding more so because I'm being curious.

Okay, so from my side, like these experiments or what are we doing with work together? She's like this question that you have, what is this inner knowing? What is intuition? What else can we know about it? She said that analogy of like, what is your earth suit for? so I can see things. She's like, that's, I'm not much farther along than that on my journey with my intuition.

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And she's like, you've come a long way. You're like using that site, you know, as a metaphor, but there's so much to know and you're, you are doing so much, but you just have to know that you're doing it. And then you'll be like, I see all these different ways. Right. And then I can go from feeling like I know 20 % of what I'm doing and knowing like, yeah, I feel like I have a much better grasp of, of what I'm doing. guess expand my awareness of like actually how that shows up in my life.

And so she's saying that's why that's what we're doing. Like it's layered. We're doing more than one thing. We're also talking about consciousness. So it's going to, you know, root and bloom in all kinds of ways in every part of your life. So it's kind of this ongoing thing. so last summer, like six months ago or whatever, when we were doing these, it was really about like consciousness, collective consciousness, awareness.

And to be honest, after those sessions, I've actually listened to a few of those episodes and it's incredible. It's incredible to me how I forget what we cover in these sessions. But when I go back and look, I can see like that has settled inside of me so deeply in the last few months. It's so wild how that works. Like it's so natural because it's in the subconscious mind and it's a slow shift as you're

subconscious mind kind of reworks its habits around this new belief or new insight or perspective. And she's saying just Steph, how I said, I want this to be like more secular language. Like I'm very spiritual. It's a big part of my own life. Obviously, like my podcast has been very spiritual since day one, but I want to start talking more about it kind of like in regular ways because I don't think it's only spiritual. think people who aren't spiritual,

Need to be thinking about expanding their awareness, understanding consciousness, understanding what influences them, understanding the shadow, the benefits of going through the shadow and all the millions of ways to describe that to people who aren't particularly interested in spirituality. Yeah. And she's, she's saying that's what you're learning from us. It's like this secular non-religious or spiritual way.

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of seeing the sixth sense, for example, to use really like shorthand. And so she's like, that's, go, I go there, get insights, wisdom, it changes my awareness, my consciousness, understanding, perceptions, my beliefs, and I move forward with it. And then I get more questions and then I go to them or to her, I guess. And then

It's kind of this like back and forth. So, so yeah, I mean, did I have that question just so I could bridge the unconscious and the conscious? I don't know. But yeah, she's like, that's what we're doing and that's what we'll continue to do. So now I'm just kind of nosing around like, okay, well, what, what is it? What do they get out of this? Kind of, and I'm gonna just.

sit with that for a second. She was reminding me of last summer when we did these sessions and that one session where I was like, I don't know what's going on. Like it took me a while to figure it out that she had been kind of inviting a part of, you know, her soul's awareness in, and I had come in and she was like surprised that it happened so easy. And then also surprised that

I was like, had been there before, she thought this was like something that she just did. Not on accident, but she had been trying to do it and it was the first time it worked. And so she is reminding me that from her vantage point, it's kind of like, this was this curiosity project that she was just kind of doing on her own. And it was a way to take everything that they know and practice around consciousness and maintaining peaceful hearts.

in their community. She loves that work and she, but she loves it. But it's also second nature for her. And she's one person in a long line of people who have figured out to have people like her in roles like that. And so yes, her job like

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helps her feel compassionate and creative and she thrives in it and it does the community really well and people really like her and trust her, but it's easy. And she was doing kind of this little curiosity project to be like, how far can I take my awareness? How far can we push this? And it's not like a resentful thing like as Gina.

If I was in that position, I'd be like, fuck, these people are so boring and know, stunted. We've been doing this shit the same way for generations. I need to change it. You know, and she's just like, instead of being like, this is boring and stuffy. We should, you know, judge it up a little with some modern information. She's like, no, she leans on it. She's like, no, we've been working so hard on this.

And it works. And so for Gina, it's almost like this change in perspective instead of if I were working in a situation like that, the way my mind is now, I mean, I, hopefully I'd be able to get ahold of it sooner, but it's kind of like, would be this energy drain, but she lets it be this energy giver. Cause she sees like, these are

tried and true ways that we go about it. Here are my own intuitive ways I go about sensing things around people in my job. And then she's like this, yeah, it's just like, it's so easy that she uses it to thrive. And then it just gives her energy or it's just a neutral.

Since then, I had this awareness come through about this thing that always gave me friction in my work. And it's like, I'm always trying to make things easier, take less time, take less energy. Obviously, I feel like we're all kind of pressured to do that. But then I started to notice that I could not then settle into it. Like once I made it easy, efficient, not super time consuming or energy consuming or emotional,

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terrorizing me emotionally, I would get bored with it immediately. So it was like, I became aware of these two parts of me where it's like, gosh, I am like simultaneously trying to make everything easier. And then like the moment shit's easy, I'm like, this is boring. I want a different challenge or this is boring. I don't wanna do this anymore. And that awareness has been really huge. And I had that kind of...

through the fall, like that started to become really clear to me specifically after those summer sessions in 2025. And so to be in this session that you're listening to in December of 2025 and really kind of have those dots connected, those dots of like, oh, there's so often that I think of Axe and I think of how idyllic her life feels and I see it from her point of view.

But when I step back as Gina and look at it, it would be so boring, so isolated. As I say in session, like I would have all kinds of critiques for the way things are being done. That's who I am. And so to look at her and how much she gets done in her job and in her world and the depth of her life and her contentment with her life, that to me is really inspiring. Like inspiring.

that she can feel that way living in that environment. And so to me, to have that perception change and to see it more as like, I'm so good at making things easy that I get bored with them. Could I just change my perspective? Because what Axe is saying so clearly here is that my perception and how I view things

directly influences whether I feel like I'm getting energy, being nourished by it, or I'm being drained by it. Now there are things that, and this is just like everyday life stuff. I'm not talking about big existential problems. We have issues that come up obviously that are bigger than our perception and we just have to move through them. But a lot of my suffering is just like bullshit in my own brain. And

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in hearing her explanation of it and kind of being in her so closely tied to her consciousness in it, seeing it kind of from her point of view, is that, yeah, that perspective that we have on any given task can make us want to, you know, do it and actually thrive in it. It can torture us. It can deplete us. And for me to hear that after been kind of meditating on

you know, my work processes all fall was really an interesting shift. And it was like, yeah, I know that I have been feeling that for so long. And I feel like it's never been more conscious for me than it is right now.

Yeah, she was just like, she uses it as, as a easy thing to thrive in something that gives her energy. And so that was like her part of the experiment. So she's just kind of having fun with it. But because I had already been working with Baron and G, one of my ancestors on the council. They, because I have a different relationship with them as Gina, like this facet of the soul.

I think I've asked them this question before. I don't know if it's been in a hypnosis session or in a meditation of my own, but all I get from them is just like, why wouldn't we share this knowledge with you? We love you so much. Like we love it when your energy is here.

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This is one way you stay safe in the spiritual realms. Anytime you are astrally traveling, visiting the Akashic records, doing an out of body experience, however you say it, it is to be in that vibration of unconditional love. I obviously would not enjoy these journeys if they weren't that, but every time I'm there, every time I engage with...

this realm that I have experienced in the people on the red planet. It is just this overwhelming feeling of compassion, generosity and unconditional love. And another thing that's a hallmark of like, who are we channeling? Let's ask who we're channeling. Let's make sure we're channeling things that are for our highest and greatest good. Let's maintain our sovereignty. And I think we do that.

by engaging in and seeking these experiences where we're feeling unconditional love for ourself with other beings. And then to kind of test it when they suggest things you should do. If you don't do it, what do they do? If you do it, what happens? And use it as a little bit of a test, but it is one of the reasons why I...

I trust myself to go to the red planet. I trust that it's a good experience. I have no idea what's actually happening. But it's an experience where when I'm in hypnotic trance, I feel it. feels like I'm there. And I allow that to happen in my whole body and my conscious awareness because it feels so loving and because I've had so many experiences with these beings in the unseen realms that

I do my own thing. I often don't take their advice, unfortunately. Or I forget it and I don't remember it until I go back and listen. Through all of that, they treat me like a divine sovereign being that I am. And so if you are not in realms where people are treating you like the divine sovereign being you are in these unseen realms, like, why are we doing that? Why are we going there?

Jina Seer (43:22.501)

So that is one of the reasons why we can stay safe. It's we have to keep that the frequency at which the energy we are is vibrating. And that is a lightness, a frequency of unconditional love and of sovereignty that I am a divine being with my own free will and I am influenced and I continuously seek out those influences.

but I only engage with beings in the unseen realms around us who respect that and who follow those guidelines.

We love that you're taking it and sharing that message, even though plenty of people aren't ready to hear it or never want to hear it or whatever. Yeah. And so it's basically, it's just like, they feel the love from me because I take it and bring it down in my life and like genuinely try to live. If I believe that I try to live that way instead of like.

crippling myself with self-doubt, which I have done most of my life. And so they get so much gratification out of that. And I think we've all given advice to people and we've all gotten advice and most advice just like, why did you say it? No one's listening, no one's going to change. But every once in a while we have a relationship with someone and their advice works.

we implement it in our life and it's a joy for them to watch and it's a joy for us to get that gift. And the same is true if we can share that wisdom with someone else. It's like a joy to see it. It's just like, yeah, your flower garden isn't doing anything for you, but just the existence of it makes that little effort worth it. Yeah. And that's how they're gosh, they are covering some ground today because they're also like, and take that

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garden analogy and how they feel and like doing it for the love. Just asking that question. Like it's fine to get that clarity. have that question authentically, but they're like you having that question indicates transactional love. Like I'm getting all this stuff from you. What are you getting from me? And, and just, just being that's it. And I just don't.

Gina doesn't believe it. I want to believe it. On a good day, I would say I do believe it, but I don't live like I believe it. I live like I believe the opposite. Is there value in that though? Like chasing that information that is opposite to how you're naturally living. When you said the word value, it was like the spell rung and like the whole thing got vibratey and it was like

It depends on what you value and you should decide what you do value and then reflect on your life so you can see. Am I still living like I value that thing? And then if not, make adjustments. If yes, keep going. And so in that, was like, yeah, it totally, it totally benefits me in some ways, but do I still want those benefits? Yeah. You know, like. Or upgrade them. Yeah.

Yeah, upgrade them, tweak them. So they're like, we'll come back to that. OK. Then I had Stephanie ask a question. I just had this inkling, maybe I'm ready for another plant medicine experience. I haven't done anything in a year and a half. I don't know. I was like feeling the pull to do it, but also feeling a lot of hesitation.

So I really wanted Steph to bring that up so I could just feel into it while in trance. Like, wow, 2024 was so expansive. I just didn't really do much in 2025. Had a lot of things that needed to like settle, take root, get rearranged so I could move forward. I do feel rearranged since 2024, but it was a lot of internal upheaval and I'm a little nervous about it. And Axe was like, you didn't.

Jina Seer (47:43.539)

do anything in 2025. And she was just like, like the hypnosis, like the red planet stuff we did. Yes, like that was deep work, but like I, I commune with my higher self sometimes probably like almost once a week, really. And that has really changed my life. And just that deeper connection to me has made me so much more aware, so much

more willing, because I feel safe, safe within myself, safe within my higher self energy to explore these uncomfortable things that are holding me back. Can I get beyond it? So I don't have to be afraid. So I can do these things because I want what's on the other side of it. It's not that you're not going to have upheaval. Life can have times of upheaval. That's what it is to be growing and evolving and on the spiral of life. But she's like, but

To have that same experience, no. And even if it was a beautiful experience, to have that same experience, no, you're different. Like you're different, the time's different, the group is different, like everything is different. So don't go into it with expectations. Those included is kind of what she's saying.

And then of course, it's always the question, the answer that we get when we go to our higher self or to our spirit guides and we go, should I do this or that? And guess what? You can do whatever you want, it's like, no, I'll be staying. And she's like, you're safe everywhere. I mean, she's being nicer than that, but she's like, you're safe everywhere. Everywhere you're safe. Like.

And I know how to keep myself safe. I don't have to be afraid in that realm. Focus on that. Focus on those things. Like you see the good that happened. But when I think about doing it again, all I do is like, can't do that again. Like feel like I'm still, I am still rebuilding from that coast.

Jina Seer (50:02.223)

Which is fine. It had to happen, but it's f****g humbling and hard. And so she's like, focus on the good things. Again, which one are you trying to conjure? Yeah. That your thoughts are a prayer. Your worries are a prayer. so why would you go down that route? Like if, if you're going to take this route and good things and bad things can happen, focus on the good, prepare what you can for the bad. But the moment you don't have to be thinking about it, don't be thinking about it.

And so that's just been a lesson and I see the good that it brought to me. So she's just kind of like affirming that and also saying, it's just a layer in the cake. Like it is a layer in this cake. It is, it's not as big as you're making it. It's big, but you do a lot of things that are big. And then she's saying, cause one of the things, a big shift that I felt it's like, I really always.

have this natural feeling, I call it like, I'm like a cat on a hot tin roof. Like, just can't, I just can't get comfortable. Like, I just, I can't be anywhere too long. I don't want to be trapped here. Like, where's my truck? Can I leave at any moment? And I don't feel that way much anymore. I mean, I feel that way maybe 40, 30 to 40 % of the time, which might sound awful, but

It used to be a hundred percent of the time. used to just not even know that that that was a feeling. It was just who I was. That settling feeling. It just feels like I'm thawing out. I can finally see me. I can finally talk. It's crazy. And so yeah, she's just like, focus on that.

Focus on what you want. If you're going to repeat something, focus on the reason why you're doing it. Why would you sign up and do something else and focus on like the bad things. And you did have a question about entities and if what you're doing throughout a hypnotic journey is enough for safety. I'm like having this internal battle.

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Because what she said, I'm like, I feel like if I say that, it'll cheapen it. It'll like cheapen my process. And she's like, only if you believe it does. Everything's my choice.

beautiful and the terrorizing part of it. So she, she is just highlighting the idea that it comes down to belief. If you believe that you can snap your little fingers and your whole house is cleared of any negative energy, then that is, that's what it is. So if Gina believes and her client or the person listening to her hypnotic journey believes that this is enough.

then it is enough. But it is convincing and people easily believe it and people stay safe in Gina's journeys because she believes it so much and she talks about it so much that it's, it like makes sense to people on that level. So it's not like getting someone to believe is persuasion or influence. mean, I guess it could be, but it's more just like,

Gina explaining how she envisions this, how we keep someone safe, connecting to the divine, rooting into the safety and the nourishment of earth, being bathed in and connected to our own divine light. Like those are great things to do. Those are things that you can do to keep yourself safe, to keep yourself healthy or mentally.

peaceful calm whatever but it's like that belief that's there and when you're in hypnosis and you're connected to the divine that's a feeling that's like undeniable you don't get there and not believe it and then I know we've talked about entities but she's just basically saying it's one of those things that all we can do in a connection with one person with a billion people all we can do is maintain our part and energy in that connection

Jina Seer (54:25.051)

you know, lead by example, hold beautiful beliefs and live your life in accordance with those beliefs. And I guess if someone's willing to take your advice, like share what you have to learn or share what you have so they can learn. there anything else that she would like to share with you before we return? That feels complete. But Steph, do you have a question? Like whether it's related to this session or not, or a question that you have, like she's like, does Stephanie have a question?

I'm like, don't know what to do. Well, I think she may be saying that because recently, like very recently, I always used to say, trust the universe. You I don't know if I'm going to return to the school in September. I've been battling with it and I just say, I'm going to leave it up to the universe. And then one day Gina, voice popped into my head and it's like, you said, let's move away from that phrase, trusting the universe and into I'm writing my own story.

Like instead of placing your life healing or direction into an external abstract force, you're stepping in to conscious choice and self authority. I, yeah, that, so your 2025 might not have felt big, but your 2025 was huge for me. The way you said that there, 100%. That's like,

clarity that I'm getting to. think I've talked about it on the podcast. I don't know if you and I have actually talked about it, but it's this waiting. I used to do so much waiting. Yeah, exactly. Waiting on the universe. And the universe was like, hey, you're here to do some shit. What are you waiting for? Yeah, I love that, like consciously creating it instead of waiting for it. Why don't I be with that decision and stop?

waiting to make sure it's okay. Exactly. See if I'll regret it. It's like you're already doing it.

Jina Seer (56:32.679)

Such a good one to end on. Make the decision, take the action, do the thing. Don't be waiting on the universe. I've got three things in mind that I could move forward with as I say that to you. Okay, thank you, Stephanie. Thank you so much for doing this session with me. And if you all wanna do a session, you should do one with Stephanie. And I wanna know, what did you think of this? Any part of this that's a part of your journey that you wanna comment on?

Different perspectives, maybe? Something validated in you you want to share? I'd love to hear it.