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Hey everyone, it's Jina. Welcome to this member episode. So we are going deeper this month on Sear Sessions. We're covering going a little bit deeper into parallel lives, past lives, future lives, all of that stuff. And as you know, in the public episodes, I try to keep this work and my explanations more like.

open and of course like grounded. I always want it grounded. When I say that I mean like you're doing this and you're actually coming away with things that can affect your life, make your life feel easier, better, make the hard shit feel like it's actually worth it. So I try to keep it a little bit more open just so people can explore it through their own worldview, I guess, whatever their spiritual views are. And inside the membership

We go deeper. So I'm gonna talk even more about what I personally believe, how my views have changed over the years, what I've witnessed after guiding so many people through these journeys. And in last month's Patreon episodes, I did go a little bit deeper into some of that. So I'm just gonna be talking in more detail and specifically around this idea of other lifetimes.

So I think you all already know this, but I just want to say you don't need to prove anything with another lifetime. I know that there are people out there who have proven things. Like they have, you know, looked things up and proven that the life they experienced was an actual person. And I I personally think that's super cool. And I always love it.

When a client will come back and say, hey, I Googled that and it's actually a thing. And even though I personally am not like a history buff, and I've literally never, even when I first started out, I was never just organically drawn to do that work myself of like proving this life existed, proving this thing was true. But even though I never like set out to prove it, I've had things from other lifetimes be proven.

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so deeply in another lifetime and then and then I'll hear about like what it is in history you know later on after I have that experience. So one experience that I'm thinking of in particular, it was one of the first podcast episodes, probably like within the f I don't know if it was like episode four, five or six.

But I am a ritual leader of sorts, and that lifetime ended with a hanging and a beheading, I believe, or a throat slitting. but in that lifetime when I experienced it, I wasn't like, you know, hip to ancient or medieval like pagan or nature religion.

lore or history or information. I mean, I wasn't against it, but it just wasn't something that, you know, we only have 24 hours in a day. I was not thinking about those things. So when I experienced that lifetime, it was just pretty foreign to me, my daily life today. But it also kind of it was so detailed. I got a real glimpse of like the rituals that we would do. And

more so like the common movements within these rituals. And one of them was this movement of like people would either be dancing solo, like in the middle of a circle, or they would be dancing in a circle, but they would be like dancing, but not necessarily. Oftentimes like a group will dance and

they're seeking like synchronicity and to look a certain way. Like that's kind of the point of it. Like, yes, dancing feels good, but oftentimes when we're watching that, that's kind of what I think of. It's like a dance is a performance. But this was actually absolutely not a performance. And it was specifically to move your body to get energy out. And our hands and arms were like upstretched to the sky and like

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I don't know, almost as if we were like trying to flick water off our hands, you know, just kind of like moving like that. And it was very distinct. I could feel it. I could feel how good it felt. And I could feel the intention behind it and how that amplified how good it felt. And that was it. Like the the gifts that I took from that other lifetime were not that. That was just like a cool detail on the journey.

But I never, again, felt the need to like look into this. I personally wouldn't even know what I would Google at that point if I was trying to look into that. But years later, I was reading this book called Drawing Down the Moon. And it talks about these ancient nature religions and their practices. And that was one of them. Like the way they described it, it was literally that. It was people dancing for

The intention of releasing energy out of themselves and off of the earth, like into the atmosphere, into the air to be like to lighten the load on Mother Earth, like the energetic load. And that to me was like, holy shit. I was I knew about that ritual before, like history taught me about it. So I have seen things like that.

And I've had many clients share stories like that as well. And if you're interested in understanding other lifetimes and proving that they're real, there if you Google it, there's so many books that will like so many people have actually proven it and have been able to show like we actually carry even physical signs of these other lifetimes in our life today.

So back in 2015 when I did my very first past life regression, I was there for the healing of it. I just wanted to feel better. I've been someone I can often see like I want this thing, but like the action needed between me and that thing, I just I don't want to do, or I feel like I cannot do. And go back and listen to the episodes in June. I go a little bit deeper into that.

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But I was really thinking back then, like, yes, this is a past life of mine. And I thought that because it felt so real. Like the way we experience these things, they feel as real as me remembering sitting on my couch last night with my dogs. It's not real right now, but it was real then. And it's like real in my life because it's real in my memory.

So with that, my only translation was, yeah, this feels totally real. And I can't say that now I think it's fake, but I think what really has shifted is my understanding of time. And really more so my becoming more aware that time is not as we really do perceive it.

On this planet rotating at this rate around the star that is our sun. And so, with that understanding of time and how time is really related to gravity, gravity is really related to the planet we're on, how far we are from the sun, you know, many people who are a lot smarter than me should be and have explained this.

But I think why it's important for me to talk about it and you to talk about it and you to understand it is because the more regular ass people that can grasp these things, I think is just good for humanity. To be reminded that there's more to life than my one point of view, my one track in life, my views on happiness, productivity, gifts.

The more we can expand our awareness to include more people's truths, the potential of the unknown, being comfortable in the unknown, these are all very powerful things. These are all things that open us up to compassion, to the good of the group that we're in, or humanity as a whole, instead of just for us, just for money.

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Okay, tangents. So where am I at today? I mean, like I said, all of this is a little bit beyond me. There are people way smarter than me who have yet to figure this stuff out. But what it means for me today, and I guess where I'm at, is if I had to pick a theory, it's all kind of happening at once. So when I say past lives, I don't really think they're

In the past. Like, I don't think it happened 200 years ago. I think that it's probably on some level happening right now. Question mark. And that is how I can move my awareness from right here, right now, me sitting at my desk, and I can close my eyes and remember sitting on the couch last night with my dogs. That's like

Me making that journey. I am time traveling in a sense. I mean, I know that if people are talking about tri time traveling to just say memory is like super boring and takes the wind out of their sails, but I really do believe it is that subtle. Or it's through that subtlety that we can then make these experiences bigger, more impactful, more feeling, more color, all of that. So if I had to pick like a term.

Term. Of course, I pick past lives because Past Lives and the Divine was what I used to call my podcast. Past Lives Tour Guide is my handle on Instagram. And past lives, most people get that on some level. They get the idea of it, even if it is kind of out there for them or they think it's, you know, on the dark side of things, whatever. They understand this idea of past lives. But really, if I were to take words, I would say they're more like.

Parallel lives. And the same is true with future lives, like lives in the future. I think the reason why we can go into hypnosis and experience what feels like a past life, right? A life, say, 300 years ago, a thousand years ago, that is way more common than someone comes in, they do hypnosis to experience another lifetime, and they are 300 years in the future. That has happened. There are stories.

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Of that happening, I believe I've experienced a future lifetime. But the reason why people don't think about it, don't talk about it, and why, for example, past life regression is way more common. It's like a thing. Future life progression, we don't even talk about it. You know what I mean? But to me, it's just as unlikely, given what I believe I know about time.

And these experiences and the magic that we're touching and the eternity in the infinity that we're waiting in when we experience these other lifetimes, the only thing that's stopping us from experiencing future lifetimes, I believe, is our belief that we can't, that it's not normal, that it's you know, that

For some reason the past is totally solid and written and we can rely on it, but the future is not. Now, I really do believe, like, yes, we can catch glimpses of the future, but the reason why someone can't always quote tell the future is because the future is always changing. The future is an ingredient hot dish mix of everyone who is included in your future. And everyone has free will.

And I can be headed in one direction today. I can get a piece of news. I can see something online. Someone can say something to me. I can remember something, and bam, that has totally changed. And now I feel differently tomorrow. Like that's the idea of the future, right? We feel like the future is not set in stone, but the past is. But is it? Because

All those studies that take into account birth order, for example. If I am the youngest of my family, you better believe that the oldest of my family has almost a completely different view of childhood than I did. Even though we had the same parents, similar siblings, grew up in the same house, in the same small town, with the same cultural values, all of that stuff, we come out of there differently.

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And our memories of one given instant might differ, the memory of the whole childhood arc might be different, the whole flavor and mood might be complete opposites. So is the past really written in stone? I don't know. I'm open to a lot of things. And after leading thousands of these hypnotic journeys, one-on-one groups.

Hearing people's feedback from them doing the journeys that are on the podcast. What is undeniable is that whatever we're doing, wherever we're going, however we're accessing it, whether it's a memory in our subconscious mind or our awareness is traveling somewhere else through time or just through space to this awareness, to this knowing, this expansion of perception and point of view.

Can change us completely in an instant and make our lives feel not only more manageable, but more enjoyable. Like a life that we're like excited to get out of bed for. A life that we love to live every day, not one that we're grinding out because of some outdated value system that doesn't even nourish us or make us joyful anymore.

These are the important things on these journeys. but all of that to say, I think that a big difference between 2020 fifteen Gina and 2026 Gina is that I really do believe we have more interaction with the future than we are consciously aware of. And I see it all the time. And maybe that's because I want to see it.

Maybe that's because subconsciously, I don't know, I had a few experiences that made me believe it, and now I do see it. But going through my life at this point, I can look back and see memories from being a little kid, being a teenager, being in my 20s, being in college, after college in my 20s, being in my 30s. And there were glimpses that I would get.

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Of future Gina. And so and I'm not talking about a goal that I had, because I've always been someone who has a goal. Even if I'm not setting goals, you know, in the official sense that people do, I always have an intention. I always have a direction that I'm going. And so the times I've I believe I have been.

gotten insights or glimpses of my future self have been only things I can see in hindsight, right? Because I didn't know the future when when I was back then thinking about it. And of course, all of this magic is subtle and it's stuff that I'm gonna tell you, and you're gonna be like, who cares? Doesn't matter. But it does

matter in the sense of like today and in the future. I want to know when I am tapping into this future version of me, the version of me out of the millions of options, the one that really stokes my fire, the one that would really make me proud, the one that would really make me happy, really feel like me. I want to continue to see who she is and grow in that direction.

In the moment when I was having these glimpses, which is now in the past, I wasn't aware that they were glimpses of future me necessarily, but there was this really profound feeling with this spontaneous vision or knowing there would be this familiarity that felt so deep and like at the tip of my tongue. But

As with any synchronicity, when we ask for a sign and we get it. When we don't ask for a sign, but we get a sign and we get it, like we understand what this sign is for, even though we hadn't, even though we hadn't consciously asked for it, we feel that depth and that synchronicity to me is a gift.

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And it's just this little mile marker on your path, on your route through this life that says, Hey, you planned some things. That's my belief. You planned some things before you came down to do this life. And you're on the right track with the ultimate plan. Now, you can scrap that ultimate plan at any moment, and you're not like fucking up this life. You didn't fail.

We have that choice, and the only failure is not using your free will, not picking a direction and walking confidently in that direction. And that is my belief. So you might think that's the whole point of life, and that's fine. You do your thing. But for me, I want to live in alignment with the highest and greatest vision of this life that I came here to create.

And it has taken so much work to get to this version of me, but this version of me is better, stronger, braver, tougher, harder, cooler than any other version in the past. And every conscious day, milestone, month, year, whatever that goes by.

The more I see her in who I am today. And I don't even have the total picture of her or me, but I know the feeling of it. And it's kind of crazy because as I think back for the sake of this conversation, it's a little bit mind-bending to think about the past, thinking about me in the past, understanding certain things about me in the future. And

I want to keep being that person. I want to keep growing in this direction. And so the more I can understand in hindsight what it looks like to get these little nudges from the future or little synchronistic checkpoints that are like, hey, you're on the right track. The more I can understand that in hindsight, the more I'm gonna understand that in my life today. And then I can really lean into it and I can accelerate this process of.

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moving wherever I'm moving to at whatever point in my life. And they're so weird and they're so small. But I'll share a few of them just so you can kind of get the flavor of how small and insignificant they are, but like how these synchronistic things can let us know we're on the right path. So little things like even physicality. So for me, I was born with those you know how people have two front teeth and then the teeth beside the two front teeth? Well I

There's some kind of genetic thing. They have a word for it that I've heard, but I can't remember. But it's basically when those little teeth, not your eye teeth, but the little teeth in between your eye teeth or your canine teeth or whatever, and your big teeth are spiked, like little spiked teeth. That's what I have. So when I was 16, I had some braces situation, and they were like, let's take these little spiked teeth and like make them like regular teeth. Well, they were very much like

you know, now that I've lived decades longer and can see my awareness has been expanded through different style phases. They were very nineteen nineties teeth. It was my front teeth and then the teeth that had the caps on because they were little spikes. They were smaller than my front teeth or shorter anyway. Well, you know, those only last for they say like ten to fifteen years. I had mine like twenty years.

And then I had some other things going on, so I was having dental work done and they were like, why don't we replace these crowns? Like, let's take these old ones off, put new ones on before it's like problematic and you're like having a dental emergency, you know, on a trip or on a weekend or whatever, when Jack Daniels is your only savior on tooth problems because there's no pain like tooth pain.

So I said, okay, yeah, shit, let's do it. So I went through it, they grounded it down, horrible process. I hate dental work. I hate it so much. But afterward, I remember standing in my bathroom. And at the time I was married, and the person I was married to, he was in the bathroom with me. And I was looking at my new teeth. And I remember just being like staring in the mirror.

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And looking at my teeth, and he was like, What are you doing? Cause I had this weird like smile kind of on my face. And I was like, I feel like I am having a spiritual experience. That's the feeling of it. Like, I get that I am just looking in the mirror at this new grill, but I cannot get over how familiar it looks. It literally, I feel like this is a mouth.

That feels so familiar to me. It is unbelievable. And it was one of the first times, at least in my conscious memory, that I can remember where I was like, this is so weird, but it's like a spiritual experience. Like I'm literally brushing my teeth and I'm looking at my face, being like, Whoa, this is like the face I think I was meant to have. So crazy. and whatever, it's just teeth and you know, it's your smile.

I'm a vain person, so I I like having a clean white smile. So I loved it. But there was this feeling of like, whoa, this is like a look that's so familiar to me somehow, but also I know it's like the future. It was wild. So again, kind of means nothing in the grand scheme of life, but I think of it as a synchronicity, just like a little tap, especially when I look at where I was at in my life. I think that was like.

2018, 2019. And I was very much, I was in my late 30s. I was very much like waking up to how codependent I was, even though I didn't even really understand what codependence was. I'm I'm doing that in hindsight, but I was waking up to the emotional drain of all the bullshit that I had committed myself to, essentially. So in seeing these teeth, I see it now as like.

I could sense who I was becoming. And fast forward in 2020, you know, the chaos of 2020, we were all kind of reconfiguring things, reassessing, because we were forced to like go to our rooms and do it. And one of the things that I was thinking about was: this is a perfect time for me to like cut my hair short, to do the thing. Ever since when I was a little kid, I always had short hair. And then I remember my mom was like, all right.

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You're going to school, you gotta grow your hair out. And my parents, I can't say my parents, you know, they're small town people. They weren't like lesbians have short hair and we don't want you to be a lesbian, but in their mind, at least from my point of view, they were like, girls have long hair and do these things. And I just wasn't really interested in a lot of that. But I also am a child, so I'm like just kind of going with the flow.

I didn't want to grow up my hair, but I did. Whatever. It's fine. I don't think it's like a traumatic thing, but I bring it up because even as a teenager, I was like, I should cut my hair pixie short again. Like it just felt so good. I hate the h hair that I have. You know, I hated it as a teenager. it I have very fine hair. It's not meant to be long hair, I don't think, at this point. But so I felt like I was always struggling, battling my hair.

And 2020, I am 39 years old or 40 years, 39, something like that. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna do it. I'm just gonna cut my hair short. Like, what's the worst thing that can happen? I'll grow it out. You know, we're in this pandemic anyway, like we're not doing anything. And I'm someone who gets severely bored very quickly. So I was like, let's do it, let's just give it a shot. And my god, you guys, holy.

Shit. That haircut changed me. So when I cut my hair, it was that feeling that I had when I looked at my teeth when they were redone. When I was like, this is weird, but I feel like I've always seen these teeth. Like I always knew I would have these teeth somehow. When I got my haircut, I remember being like, whoa. And the first I went from like a, you know, a short.

Bob-ish kind of haircut. I always had like shorter long hair to a shaved undercut and then it was longer on top. And a shaved head, you guys, is just it's a feeling that you need to experience once in your life. Highly recommend it. if it's not my favorite look on me, a shaved head, but if it was, I would have a shaved head all the time because it's easy, sure, but it feels so good.

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Showers feel good. my God, rain on your head feels so good. Driving with the windows down, wind whipping around your buzzed head. Holy moly. It's a feeling we all deserve every day. but it's a look that I don't necessarily want to maintain. But when I got my hair cut short, I felt I literally felt like, my God, I can see myself. This is what I look like. This is who I am.

And it's it was that simple. It was like a past life regression when you go into hypnosis and you experience another lifetime and you just you have a different point of view. It's like, I used to hate this or not understand that or be totally frustrated by that. And now I totally get it. I accept it. I even like it. I'm willing to do it. My life has changed. It was like, my gosh, this level of clarity that came through.

And people will be like, Do you think you'll ever grow your hair out long again? And I'm like, Are you kidding? Hell no. I hardly even think of my hair. And it's literally never looked better. Like, I can go on a sweaty ass run. This happens at least once a week, twice a month. This happens at least twice a month. I go on a sweaty ass run. My hair gets sweaty, gets gritty, gets a little curl to it. I let it air dry. I take a shower. And

It looks great. And people will be like, your hair looks so great. And it's like, that's because I don't touch it. This is exactly the way it's supposed to be. And it's so easy and it's never looked better. So that was another thing too, where it's like, even aesthetically, we can kind of pick these things up. And that would be, it's almost like I've always had these hints of like the strength of how I want to be and the grit of how I want to be.

And the lightness though, and the humor though. And this was like aesthetically things were starting to make sense. It was kind of crazy. And even after I cut my hair short, it was like I could look back in the past and be like, my God, my style makes total sense. Because the things I want to wear just go with me with short hair. With long hair, it would just like look weird. I don't know. And not that there's any rules at all.

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But for me personally, it was just this feeling of like, whoa, future me. I feel like there was a part of me that always understood I would live in Arizona. I mean, I spent 40 years almost living in Minnesota. I mean, I popped in and out of other places like during college and after college, but solidly I lived in Minnesota for like 40 years. And every fall I would be like,

disappointed by the way the colors would change and the timing of it and the weather and the lighting of the sun in the sky and the brightness of the blue of the sky. I was always like craving more. I was always like, shouldn't it be this way instead? And now living in Arizona, I'm like, this is actually the exact climate that I was always craving.

And when people think of Arizona, they think of the desert, they think of Phoenix, they think of Tucson. Well, I'm in Prescott, which is 5,000 feet elevation. So we still get the bangin' sun. It's way sunnier in Arizona than California. I get all kinds of sun, blue skies, it's clear air. We're at a higher elevation. We're on an incline. I'm on the side of a mountain. So the sunsets and the sunrises are.

Banging. That's like great chemistry for great color, pink skies, oranges, purples, all that stuff. It's like I've always known I was going to live here. It's like something in me was always uncomfortable. And then when I moved here, I was like, see? They experience fall colors over my birthday. In Minnesota, it was always over at the beginning of the month. I my birthday's toward the end of October.

And I just couldn't, I'd be like, God damn it, another year where I don't have fall colors. And then pretty soon I started being like, it's not fall colors in Minnesota at the end of October. At the end of October, it's bare, it's gray, it's starting to get cold, depression is setting in. And here it's just like beautiful sun, fall colors. I don't know. Again, it doesn't mean anything besides giving me great peace that I feel like I'm on the right path.

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And if someone says that doesn't mean anything, then they don't understand the terror and the torment and the depression that comes when we feel like, what the fuck is this life? And I don't even really want to be here. How do I make sense of this? How did I get here? How did I get so intentional and still end up here? Like if you've never asked yourself those questions and you've never felt just kind of the despair that goes with it.

Then getting a little signal that says, hey, you're on the right path, that literally radiates through your whole body, like those people don't get it. But it's these small things that help us know like we're on the right path. This life means something. You're making it mean something. And, you know, I said it last month, but after thousands of journeys and leading so many people on these journeys.

That's the thing that makes the most difference. It's these subtle shifts that make us feel like I'm doing it. I'm nailing it. I'm enjoying this. I have free will. I'm doing it. And that power will change your future. It's changing my future. And that power, a lot of women just leave because we're told, you know.

Explicitly or implicitly, you need to find a partner, you need to have a family, you need to have a job, you need to do it all. And when you're not, carry that with you, know that you're not, and carry it as a failure. And there's so much benefit for society for women to give and overgive. And our emotional labor is so valuable.

on a human, on a soul, on an energetic level, but when you extrapolate that out into a money-driven world, it doesn't f seem important. You know, logic gets in the way. And I think that's another important thing in these journeys is that we can bypass that logical mind and get a totally different perspective. Okay.

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Little tangent there. Next up, I want to say, is this my life? Is it my past life? Is it my right? Like glimpses of the future that I get. Yeah, that's mine. I'm creating it. I'm stepping in that direction. To me, it's almost more powerful, right? Because that is something that I can change right now in this moment. I can make a change. Well, that's true for the past too, though. I don't know. See you guys.

You're on this with me. This is so confusing. So, but is it my life? So when I first started doing these journeys, I was really thinking like this is the incarnation of my soul. And I don't think that's wrong, but my awareness around that has totally expanded. I do believe that ultimately we are all one.

We are on this earth for a few reasons, but the biggest reason is so that the universe can experience itself. So I separate from source, I have this experience, I go back to source. I think most people agree with that, whether you think it's one lifetime or you have many lifetimes. But in believing that and in knowing in myself that we are all one.

Ultimately, we come from the same energy, then is it my lifetime? Or am I just kind of like pulling from the collective because I myself am pulled from the collective? So after all of these journeys, that's kind of what I get. I'm less precious about it. Like that's my past life. I was that person back then.

I'm way less precious about that and way more interested in but what are we getting from this? And what does this say about you? Your ability to have compassion and grace for yourself in this moment, for the past and in the future.

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And so in that it's like, is it my life, or am I just pulling from the collective based on who I am when I show up to these journeys looking for this information? Then, because I'm intentional, because I'm clear on that intention and I state it, the universe then rises and says, here's your experience. And I can take it as my life.

Or I can say this is from the collective. And I'm just taking a ride in that car to learn something for my life today. Like what a fucking gift that I can do that.

And it will change your life and it's so perfect because it's so small and it's so subtle that people who aren't intentional, who aren't mindful, who aren't sensitive, who aren't attuned to these subtleties completely miss it.

So all these hypnotic journeys later, after eight years of leading them myself, after eleven years of being a client of these journeys to other lifetimes, yeah, I'm just not at all possessive over it or like that's mine. I really do believe we're pulling from a collective.

And the magic is, is that my awareness and my consciousness can make it feel almost totally real in this life today. And I would say that little bit of like pulling a lifetime from the collective based on what I need, my intentions that I bring to that session. I think that's why people can have, you know, multiple people are like, I was Cleopatra in a last in a lifetime.

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And I think it misses the point. Like if someone's saying I was Cleopatra and that's the thing that they're focusing on, then they miss it. Like your ego is like, I'm Cleopatra. Well, Cleopatra does not matter in 2026. I'm sorry, she doesn't. She doesn't because she's not alive. If you talk about your life as Cleopatra, most people are not gonna care. But the thing that could really improve someone's life.

If they had that lifetime as Cleopatra would be to be in it, to be in the power that she held. I don't know shit about Cleopatra, but wasn't she like, was she sensual and seductive? Maybe not, but like, I don't know if you want more in that. If someone had that experience of that lifetime and they were in cla in session with me, then I would be like.

What in Cleopatra's life, in this experience that we're having, I don't need to know history, I need to know what's going on with this client. What is this client's intention? What's the overlap on why they're experiencing this life? Now let's feel it and let's amplify it. So I wonder, anyone, anyone who says, I experienced a lifetime as Cleopatra, what was your intention? Did you want strength? Did you want power?

Did you wanna feel, I don't know, love and connection, whatever other hallmarks of that lifetime that that person experienced in that session, that's what they needed. Not to come out of it and be like, I was Cleopatra. I'm famous 3,000 years ago. Like, what? What a I don't want to say that's a waste of a session because maybe that proclamation is very healing for someone, and probably I just can't wrap my mind around it.

I think there's so much better that we can do, but if they were my client, that is not what they would come out of that session chirping about. And I really do believe that that most people doing this work don't really care about the fame or being able to prove it. They're here for another experience. They're here for a different point of view. They're here for healing. They're here for

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Lightness, they want to be able to feel grace and compassion. They want to be for themselves, for other people. They want to be able to feel genuine connection. They want to be able to take these things of life, relationships, love, creativity, and see the value in them in their life today. That's the point of view that we want to we want to shift that. If we come out of this 3D life in 2026 or whatever year it is that you're listening to this, if you

Come into this life, and there's so much that you don't like or you don't appreciate to have a lifetime that ignites what feels like a memory, what ignites a feeling in your body that is like the feeling you're seeking in this life, and you don't have to do drugs for it, and it only takes, you know, an hour or an hour and a half, and then you're totally fine. It's like that is the point of it. That

Is why we're doing it. And the same is true. I am the same. In 2015, when I did these sessions as a client, started these sessions doing these sessions as a client. 2018, when I started leading them as a hypnotist myself, I have always, always, always put at the forefront how does this other lifetime, this other experience, enrich your life today?

How are you becoming the greatest fucking version of yourself in this life? And not for your kids or for your family or for your work or for your clients or for your boss. I'm saying do it for you. Like what lights you up?

I don't know that I've never been more passionate about that piece than I am today, even though that is a flame I've carried from the jump. So some things have changed, some things have not. But yeah, overall, I think no matter what we're doing, the point is not necessarily to leave this life or escape this life, even though I do think having an escape is just fine.

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And if we admit that and we're intentional about our escapes, I think those escapes can be much more fruitful, like enjoyable, less guilt, more nourishing, more rejuvenating. But to take these journeys just to leave this life, I don't know, seems like a lot of effort and hullabaloo for me for not a lot of shift in this life. But I am someone, life does not feel easy to me.

it's feeling easier, it's feeling more enjoyable, but I am always looking for relief. I'm always looking for understanding and a greater vantage point that just makes me feel a little bit more peace because it's easy as someone attuned to the subtleties to be kind of brought down. I think that sinking into a low point or a low mood or a negative outlook.

is a lot easier. Even though less enjoyable, it is a lot easier than like looking to who we want to be and using another lifetime and the experience of it to get us to to get us even closer to who we want to be. Get us even more of the intangible emotional things that we want to get more in alignment with like the life that we came here to create.

So it's not about leaving this life, it's about understanding this life today. And we do that by taking these journeys out there. And out there, I don't know what is real. What is real? If we have an interaction and we come out of it with two completely different points of view and conclusions, which one's real? Which one's the truth?

You know, sometimes there is an overarching truth, but for a lot of things in life, there is no truth. There is no capital R right answer. We have to figure that out for ourselves. So I'm curious, what do you all believe? Have you seen a transition in how you believe in these experiences, what you believe is happening? Has that shifted?

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And then, of course, if I said anything here that leads you to have a question, please let me know in the comments. I would love to hear from you. One more thing before I go. In July, July 18th, we have a group hypnotic journey. I'm trying it on a Saturday. Hopefully that works in the summer. Hopefully a few of you can come and join me. but if you can't, the replay will be available, and that is for

Those who are in the $9 membership, the inner field tier. And no matter what tier you're in, I'm so thankful that you're here. And please let me know if you have any questions. And I would love to hear your thoughts on these other lifetimes and what we're doing. All right, everybody, I will be back on the 13th. Until then, enjoy yourself.