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Do you see love as an altered state of consciousness? Are you scared of it because of that? Just me? Let's talk about it. In today's episode, I have a session for you. One where I'm exploring all of my embarrassing questions about love. On the Seer Sessions podcast, you can access... A bedtime, nighttime hypnotic journey that has to do with love, helping you feel more loved, grounded, safe. You can access another lifetime, see a lover in another lifetime. You can go to your higher self, ask all kinds of juicy questions about love. And in this Patreon, we are going even deeper. Deeper. So in December of 2025, I met with soulful Stephanie and we went to the Red Planet and I asked all kinds of questions about love. Now, if you're wondering what the Red Planet is, why I go there, if you access podcast episodes like 194, 195, 196 and the episodes around it, I really kind of dive into my Red Planet experiences and why I go there. But in short, a facet of my life or a facet of my soul feels like it's living a life there. And when I go access the red planet and that lifetime or other lifetimes that I've a facet of my soul has lived there, I always come out feeling more calm, more centered. And with new points of view that I couldn't get just as like third dimension Gina, I guess. So in this session that I'm sharing with you, like I said, Soulful Stephanie led me through it. Please click the link, follow Stephanie, schedule a session with Stephanie. Of this session, I removed long silences and yeah, our intention was to go in there and have Steph ask some questions. Jina Seer (02:06.096) that I had for acts for this higher self part of me. And in addition to that, just because the session went as it did, Steph took me kind of on two different healing modalities and they had to do with bringing together my 15 year old self, my 25 year old self, my 35 year old self, and then me, 45 year old me. And we had some time together and I had some real interesting shifts. So one of the things that I had been feeling before that was just kind of this really fear when I would look back on myself. Fear because I didn't know myself well and fear of how bad it could have gone. And I just couldn't shake that fear. And it was like fear and grief. And through this session, I just felt more whole, calm, and centered, but that fear and grief is gone now when I look back on that. And instead, I really... see it differently. And I go into that more in this session. So you'll get that. Some of the insights that I got during this session, I actually got on a mushroom journey, like four years ago, I had taken a psilocybin journey and had some epiphanies about love. And this was at the time that I was actually like, my divorce had just become final. And I was just feeling a lot of shifts and changes. It was right before I moved to Arizona. I did this day-long mushroom journey and got a lot of these same insights about love. And that's what's interesting about these sessions is that if we don't revisit them, or for me anyway, and I hear this from my clients, but if we don't revisit them and we don't have a practice to stay in touch with it, we lose it. Jina Seer (04:04.502) It's just like any great conversation. If you never revisit it with your thoughts, you're not going to remember. It's not going to influence you. Probably. I mean, there are some things that I took from it that definitely influenced me. I'm sure it's been influencing me on a subconscious level. And actually, as I say that, I know it's been influencing me on a subconscious level, but it's interesting how these things kind of pulse in and out of our life. And it really just proves to me that life is a spiral. And when I'm looking at love today, and when I think back to that mushroom journey four years ago, when I got some of the same information, I am a pretty different person. And so I'm able to take that wisdom and do different things with it. And because the shifts I've made, I can do even more with it and squeeze even more gifts and juice out of it. So we're diving into that session I'm talking about, where I take all my fears, seeing love as an altered state. I've been scarred in the last four years. That's what the online dating world will do to you. No, I'm sure it'll be just fine for you. I'm sure it's just that I'm too difficult for it. Okay, this session that I'm sharing with you today brought me so much peace afterward. I had been coming off a rough four years of dating. I haven't been romantically involved with anyone in a few months and I feel so much peace because of that and I got so much peace from this session. And not only romantic love, because here's the thing, like I might see the issue as romantic love. I might be afraid of romantic love, even though it's something that I really enjoy and want in my life, but it's not just romantic Jina Seer (05:56.938) love. It's love period. It's kind of one of those things where it's like, how we do one thing is how we do everything. Great. That is definitely the case here. The truth underneath these issues that I'm having is actually, if I can, you know, smooth that out, it benefits me in all kinds of areas of my life because love doesn't just happen. Connection doesn't just happen romantically. It's how I do it. just might have different themes, different flavors, but at the end of the day, it's still me executing it. And if I want more, if I want to go deeper, if I hear that other people have like this deep, fulfilling love, like I want a little taste of it. So here we go. I'm diving into it. I hope you don't mind, but I changed up just tiny bit. Yeah. Leading into it, but. Okay, yeah, I don't mind at all. right. All right, I'm ready. I think, wait one more sec. Jina Seer (07:06.904) Okay. Jina Seer (07:10.868) Okay, just taking a few breaths as you settle in. Tune into your light even deeper as we invite Axe to be present with you on this path. Notice how the color or energy shifts as her light is gently beginning to merge with your own. Feeling a surge of energy, love, and power as you walk this path side by side. Together, set the intention to explore the deeper layers of Gina's soul, especially her relationship with love, connection, and truth. And you begin circling the oak tree together, finding the door. On the count of three, you'll both step through this door into the perfect space to reveal what's ready to be known. One, the door opens. Two, you cross the threshold. and three, just taking a moment to tune into your surroundings and your senses. We're on the red planet and we're in this like, it's like a crater. It's like a crater and a skate park. people, and it's like that, except we're on this like disk. or I'm with Axe as she's on this disc. And so instead of a skateboard, it's this disc. Jina Seer (08:54.017) and It hovers off the ground, but people are like using it like, I mean, the way they're using it, looks like they're at a skate park. And so we're just like. Jina Seer (09:12.31) zipping around this thing which is so wild because I kind of forgot about this, but on my very, very, very first out of body experience... Daylow took me and we were like zipping around like this on a planet like this. wow. Yeah, I'm just kind of putting that together right now. I thought it was just like this. I don't know. It all kind of feels like a dream when you first start doing these astral travel things. I don't know if we were here, but it was like very similar to this. And it's like this is something that they do for fun. And it was made from... Jina Seer (10:15.15) I'm asking if it's And I don't know anything about magnets. know, like, I don't know, like, is it just one thing that's magnet? You know, like, are there different things that are magnets? I don't know anything about it. So she was, like, not like an Earth magnet, but it's like... the same kind of theory of this repulsion. And then it was kind of like, she's limited by what she can explain because I literally don't know anything about magnets. So she's like, kind of. And that's like not necessarily even what they would call it. But it is like, Whatever the repulsion is in the magnet, that's like the energy. that they're playing with. Yeah, there's this... It's just like everyone is so happy here. And it's almost like... Jina Seer (11:37.376) we kind of all plan when to go. It's not like we can only go here one day a month or something like that, but they... Jina Seer (11:50.366) but it's like they intentionally, you can go there whenever you want, but they all prefer to go there when they're all going there, because the energy is just so much better. Yeah, so maybe tune into that energy as Gina in this space with Axe and really pull in that joy and the energy that's combined with everybody. Jina Seer (12:21.496) Partially it's so strong because everyone knows that that's part of the reason they're going. And just that knowing allows them to focus on it more and that focus amplifies that energy. So just them knowing like, part of the reason we're coming today is because we're all gonna be here and the energy is better when we're all here. Just knowing that. like increases that energy. There's someone interesting here and he's like sitting on this ledge. So even though it's like a skate park, this crater is like really long and skinny. I don't know if it's a crater, but it's kind of, it's more long than it is wide. And he's kind of like down farther, but I can like sense. that he's there and the only thing I'm sensing is is like he's this point of interest. Jina Seer (13:30.889) and with an axe. You know, it's such a small community, but she feels like she's just starting to know, or she's like just seeing him for the first time, like really seeing him or seeing a connection between them. And she's kind of like. Jina Seer (13:59.402) It's this feeling within her of like, that's, it's like, that's so fun. And that's it. And it's not even really about him. It's like her appreciating. that feeling of being drawn to someone. and she's kind of like... Jina Seer (14:30.412) And it's not that she's not getting to know him or whatever, but she's like in this moment, just appreciating like, hey, this feeling is back. with someone new and I'm as Gina kind of observing it because She, it's coming from like a... She knew it would happen. It's just like, when? Or, yeah. Where for me personally, I'm always like, this is it. I'm alone. I wish it didn't have to be that way. You know, so like her surprise is more like the delight I feel at a beautiful sunrise. Like I know the sun is gonna rise tomorrow morning. It's just what is it gonna look like, you know? And. And so she is, that's like her surprise and it all. Where for me as Gina. Jina Seer (15:40.276) I'm to a point on my journey where that new love interest feeling, I don't even let it feel good anymore. It's just straight up terrifying to me. Like this is an altered state of consciousness. What kind of decisions am I going to make while I'm in this? You know, is this a good person? I have a hard time telling when I'm in this altered state of consciousness. So her clarity is not necessarily based on like what she knows about him or herself, but just that she's surprised and delighted to be in this phase where she's feeling a magnetism towards someone. And that's it. She's not like, I hope he's not, you know, doesn't turn out to be an asshole. You know what I mean? Like, and she's not even like, how am I gonna go over there and talk to him? She's like literally first and foremost, like just being like, I love being in this energy of feeling magnetized to someone. Yeah. Jina Seer (16:52.16) And in this moment, does she give you any insight into why you see it like an altered state? Jina Seer (17:05.878) Okay, so it has something to do with... Jina Seer (17:13.036) I don't remember what it was yesterday, but there's something about a garden. Jina Seer (17:24.588) Not entirely sure, but I guess I'll just start talking. think, hopefully that'll fill in the blanks, but she's saying... Jina Seer (17:35.08) the way it is an altered state. So anytime we're feeling heightened emotions, we can just treat that like an altered state. Because it doesn't matter if it's good or if it's bad or whatever, we're not usually residing at that state of heightened emotion. And so, yeah, it is an altered state of consciousness. And if Gina wants to think of it as an altered state of consciousness... Jina Seer (18:09.854) She can do that. And there's many, there's reasons why she feels that maybe more extreme, like, cause for me as Gina, I think of it as like, Jina Seer (18:24.97) Man, I mean, I just think of all the stupid decisions I make, you know, like when I'm romantically interested in someone and I see all the grace in my life that that did not go sideways. I'm not stuck in a life I hate, you know, attached to someone. and so she's basically saying, Part of the reason it feels so altered to me is because... Jina Seer (18:58.956) is because of, well, basically my trauma, essentially, my fucking dad issues, and my subconscious mind always trying to win that. And so, so it's a perception thing. I've been saying as Gina, I don't trust it. Plus my picker is off. Like it's off. Like I think I pick a good one and it's always the same shit. And, and so she's just like, So don't pick. Just live and you meet so many people and continue to live and do cool shit. Like do shit that if I never met even another friend, if I lived this whole life alone, I would be like, fuck yeah, I did it. Because in those adventures, in those experiences, in those decisions, those projects, those spaces, those rooms, That's where we meet our people. And people, whether it's like platonic friends or romantic lovers or people you work with or people who are a combination of all of it, you know? Jina Seer (20:31.232) And she's like, yeah, so. Jina Seer (20:39.15) It's like faster than I can talk. My brain is like rebuttal, rebuttal, rebuttal, like, but this, but that, but this. So one of my fears as Gina is like, it's always this nice edge of like, if I focus on it, I can get it. But also some things, if I focus on it, it's like, that is what pushes it away. And so I feel like I'm always trying to figure out, is this one of those things that I should focus on? Or is this one of those things? that I should just avoid and focus on everything else and know that that will take shape. And what she's telling me is any time you are hoping for a person or an opportunity or a situation, anything that's external from you, If you're putting your hopes in all of that externally, like that's such a fearful place to be because they hold your happiness. Yeah. Where if I can just be in myself, focusing on myself, especially because I'm someone who recently has been like, my picker is off. These people appear to be completely different from each other, but they are all the same. What the hell? So to take that and just be like, she's saying, Gina, that's like your hall pass. It's your get out of class pass. Yes, focus on friendships. Focus on work. always been so much more rewarding anyway. And just know that as I'm doing that, like, especially what I have planned for the next couple of years, it's like, I don't have to worry about all these things I'm worried about, which is like, how do I know or picking the right one or whatever. And instead just like, this is one of those things that I should not focus on. Jina Seer (22:52.362) end Jina Seer (22:56.878) yeah. And then she's telling me instead. just continue to do what I'm doing, which is living for me and not even risking situations where I'm gonna leak excessive energy. yeah. And, excessive energy, like, because that's also just who I am right now. Like I'm a, I waffle between anxious, little fearful heart who's like, don't leave me. I'm so scared to like, fucking get away from me. And it's just like, I can't even pick a lane when I'm in a situation that I'm enjoying. And, and she's just like, just stop putting energy into it and instead build something completely different. And for me, that's like me and my work and elevating that and elevating the people who are affected by my work and elevating the people who help me with my work and who participate in these projects with me. And from there, just knowing that like, as I build this life where I'm doing things that are like, bigger than I thought I would ever do, I'm gonna have a relationship that's totally, I can't even picture it right now. And in me, I'm like, I don't wanna be that person who's like, I'm not ready for my relationship. And it's like, I honestly don't give a fuck. It's just, I like a romantic connection. Jina Seer (24:46.264) That's like low maintenance and all kinds of toxic things. Like I am kind of a toxic, romantic person. So it's like, in that, it's like there's this lack of confidence, lack of self-trust. And I'm gonna find that outside of that space. It's like acquire those tools and then. sharpen it and I don't have to go looking for it. don't have to waste energy on it. I don't have to go digging up bones and seeing why I'm doing certain things. It's just like, just set that down right now. Like everything inside of me is saying it. And I guess even though I'm saying it, I'm talking about it here. And it was just my question of like, what's going on with me and how do I move forward? And she's just like, you know, what's going on with you. Also, you can dissect that or just fucking leave it for a second and like build who you know you're building. Cause who I'm going to be in six months is just like she, if I'm the earth, she's the sun. Like she is any fucking loser I would engage with right now would be fucking toast. Me in six months would just be like. beat it loser, you know? And it's, it's like an evolution thing, not like I'm like, better than these people, you know, it's just like, you, we grow and change. and so she's just like, why did you bring that in? And not why did you bring it, but like, you know, the answer to that. And really the love that I'm questioning, it's like, everything I grew up with was like codependence, transactional. all kinds of things and I just don't even know how to do anything. Jina Seer (26:46.38) differently. I just, I don't know. Like if, if they were like, draw a different car than you've ever seen, it's like, I don't, I don't know, draw, I don't know. Like I don't even know what this is. I don't, I've never, it's like that dog in yesterday's session. or not that dog, but whatever that energy was the last time we were there. And it's like, I can't even see it. And she's saying, You don't have to see it. And you can't see it right now based on who you are. Like you're going to be a different person. You're going to be, and it might not even look different to other people, but just like the insides are going to be different. And with that, there's a different perspective. And so she's kind of like, you're on this trajectory. Why, you know, even more so, why would you invest like someone you're going to be on the level of, or at the same like energetic frequency address of now. Probably not in six months. So like, yeah, why are you stressing about it? And again, the whole thing of like, how to do that love and she's like, you just focus on yourself. And I hate that answer. Does she mean like you focus on yourself? Like, does this bring you joy rather than focus on what? you do together what you bring to the table. Jina Seer (28:19.572) she's saying focusing on your joy is what you bring to the table. Yeah. Yes, okay. and that's the garden analogy where she's like, you don't have to do anything. yeah, it's like this energetic exchange. Jina Seer (28:47.475) And in that, she's saying also set down the trying because... Trying is not how the garden works. You just like do what you do and then you just appreciate it and you watch it, you know? And you just are if you're that flower and you you're doing your thing to grow and be and people appreciate you and whatever. And she's just saying like, it won't be a try. Yeah, which now, like when she says that, think back to... my journaling and how I'm always, when I've asked repeatedly, or not repeatedly, but like I'll get shown. how, like a big love would happen for me. And it's not like there's no trying. Like I will literally physically slam into this dude and I've still might not see him, but he'll see me. And so it's, it's like this, I'm constantly shown that like I'm shown that all the time. Jina Seer (30:12.962) Yeah, but it's scary when I hear about how people love their partner. Jina Seer (30:23.062) All I think about is, fuck, that's really going to suck when they're gone. And she's, yeah. Like what a bus. I'm so excited for that so that I can just be a lonely witch in the woods who has a ghost. Yes, that's what she, that's what she said to that. She was like, but the love never dies. Yeah. And then she was just like, why would you have all people think of that? I'm like, That's why I'm here, bro. But it's like, don't, I'm not conscious of these things. It's like, I'm literally seeing these things as I look at like the rubble of my romantic life in the last 40 or 30 years or whatever. And it's, yeah, so she's like, but it's that love is eternal. And that's, which actually Yeah, that makes so much sense. And then I can see too, for some reason in my mind that that helps make sense too of like, If, but if there's a relationship between two people, there's like that thread between you, the kind of the we in between you and Jina Seer (31:46.456) to make. She's telling me I would feel better in like the grandness of love that people feel for each other if I was more solid in my own energy. And she's like, you've done good. You've come a long way. And still, like there are still. There's always work to be done. And it'll get easier. And yeah. And do you focus on in the moment when you've achieved things or are you always focusing on the next thing? Jina Seer (32:35.374) Well, to answer that question, yeah, I'm always focused on the next thing, 100%. And she's like, was basically just connecting the dots again, like. Why would you choose a state of being where you're focused on the next thing? Even if you are looking to the next thing, why wouldn't you be in the energy of all that you have already? Yeah. And, that is something. Yeah. I mean, I, I feel like I've come to this part of the spiral a few times in my life, but I am also in this whole other practice of presence and what that means. And I'm under a whole new learning. feel like from my higher self in the universe about. Jina Seer (33:36.79) how presence really allows for like things that are way bigger, way bigger than I could control, way bigger than I can manage inside my brain. And if I can get present. It seems too little, seems too small, seems too slow, it seems about what if, what if, what if tomorrow. But it's like, that really is the route in. And, and, um... And so I'm being shown that in other areas of my life too, which is how it works, right? Like if I'm having a hard time being present somewhere, of course I would have a hard time being present somewhere else. It's not that thing, it's presence that I'm having a hard time with so that I'm everywhere I am, then that problem is going to be there too. So I feel like this is just like another layer in it and having that faith that what is being built in each present moment. is enough and having the purpose to know it's in the right direction. So I just have to trust it's enough. And I don't know if this resonates. If not, we could just leave it. But what does Axe think about, or what do you think about inviting past versions of yourself, like those past versions of Gina who really put the blood, sweat, and tears into getting you where you are today? If you invited her or them just to live a day in the life of current day Gina. Jina Seer (35:20.386) Maybe they can help you hone in on all that you've achieved so that you aim even bigger. Because when we live with gratitude and love for ourselves, nothing can stop us. my god, Steph. Okay, so I'm just going to take a couple minutes and I'm going to imagine like... 15 year old me 25 35 year old me Whoa, okay Jina Seer (36:27.328) Yeah, I didn't know that I was feeling. Ashamed isn't the right word because I can't, or at least consciously, that's not how it was feeling. mean, I'm sure I'm like, my subconscious mind has been riddled with shame. So I'm sure there's shame in there, but, almost like when I look at recently, I've just, I don't know if it's in my iPhone or something has been like showing memories and pictures of me. When I was like, You know, like nine, 10 years ago, seven, eight, nine, 10 years ago. And I just look at those pictures and I just feel. even more adrift. I feel like I love my life, I love where I'm at, I've intentionally built it all, but I'm so different from who I was that I look at those pictures of myself And it's almost like I'm scared for her how lost she is. This is my perception now, because I didn't necessarily feel all that lost back then. I definitely felt like unhappy and depressed and anxious, but I can't say I felt like outwardly lost. But I just see how little I knew myself and how scary. Jina Seer (38:01.862) how scared that makes me now of how poorly it could have gone. And, I'm having a whole moment right now. Okay. So. It was like I had 15 year old Gina, 25 year old, 35 year old and me 45 year old Gina standing in my living room. And we were doing like a group hug. And I, as Gina switched from feeling like I'm scared for you. You don't know yourself, you don't know so much and you think you know way more than you do. And that terrifies me knowing what I know now and how poorly life could go. You know, I've had a lot of grace in my life and, Jina Seer (38:59.378) And it started to switch when we were all kind of like on even ground in my living room. And I started to see like, just that it's almost cliche right now. feel like an ancestor work where it's like, no, I'm here because you came here. You know, I stand on your shoulders or whatever. And that's so, that's so cliche, but this is like hypnosis, right? Like. It goes from being like, no, I feel that. Like, it's not a cliche. It's like, I felt that so much with them. And so instead of like looking at them like that, I looked at them like legs on a table. You know, like, yeah, you might be different, but like you're very much needed. I'm very much glad you're here. I'm glad you're down there and not here where I am on top of this table, you know, but like. I'm glad that, you know, we've got some distance, but I needed you. And so it was kind of this feeling of, yeah, gratitude instead of fear when I think of myself and kind of sadness for what I feel like I missed when I didn't know myself. I fucking devoted my whole thirties to a man and to my dad, you know, and it's like, That could have gone horribly, horribly wrong. And I came out with lot of grief and pain, but like... overall I'm fine, you know? And I wasn't like, it was just this real shift into gratitude for them. And then Axe came in and was like, do you see how important the work is to know yourself if you want a true equal partnership? Jina Seer (41:09.834) And she like just gently pointed out, like, you've still got some stairs to climb. Like you've come so far. And even if you stopped right now, like life is good, but I won't stop. Like I love digging around in the shadows. love exploring. love growing and transforming. And, and so that, that was like an interesting lesson too. Like I not only feel gratitude for them genuinely, but I also feel, even more how important it is to know myself. Jina Seer (41:48.458) If I want, like, a really deep, meaningful... loving partnership, like the kind that I honestly didn't even know existed until like a couple of years ago, which makes me feel so dim. But I was like, there's people who have been together decades and they genuinely like each other, let alone like want to get it on. You know what I mean? Like not to be so crass, but like that's important to me. I'm like, how does, how do these people do it? And, and it's intriguing to me and terrifying. And she is just like, You see it, you see it in yourself. Knowing yourself is the most important thing you can do. Yeah. Oh, and honoring that. I have a little exercise if you. Yeah, I'll take it. OK. So what I heard you say is that even when you know where you ended up today, here is Gina, you still worry for past versions of yourself, even though you know what their story looks like. And so my visualization is to invite. Jina Seer (43:08.94) these past versions of yourself and acts to go back into that crater, that skate park, invite them with you. pop on one of those discs. Each of you have your own. You can hold hands or you could just be in the energy together and start zipping around and have fun and experience fun through the eyes and heart of each version of you. Jina Seer (43:49.42) Just allowing that power to surge. Jina Seer (43:54.964) And if and when it feels good, invite those energies to merge. Jina Seer (44:06.048) and all together blasting out that fearful energy right out of your field, out of their fields. Jina Seer (44:20.916) Yeah, that- It's like we were going so fast and then on your suggestion like we all became one and then axe. Almost like she was plucking these doubts from my mind. Because part of my thing too, it's like, I know I need to think differently, but sometimes it's hard to think differently because the world I see just like, seems like the capital T truth. It's hard to know other things exist. And so she was just like taking all these doubts I have about love, about me about my ability to love and she was like Showing me memories in this life where she's like that's not true this happened. That's not true this happened. That's not true Just like plucking them from my mind almost like she was like pulling cobwebs off my back like we don't need this one anymore This one anymore It's like editing your story. Yes. Yes, exactly. Exactly. my gosh Jina Seer (45:41.582) perfect, yeah, pulling the cobwebs off the story. And yeah, we can see like what's real. Yeah. And when she's showing you this, what can you know or remember or understand about the dynamic in a relationship that you want? Jina Seer (46:06.37) Sometimes when I have a question like that. What I get is... Jina Seer (46:16.034) I don't know how to describe it besides this like... Jina Seer (46:21.378) picture but it's like a It's just not totally detailed. And she is showing me that that's what this is. Where she's like, yeah, ask that question during a session. You can ask that question anytime you want. But know that that picture is populating as I understand myself. And she's like, if you're looking for this like great interesting counterbalance of romantic love in your life. It would make sense that Gina right now can't picture it. Totally. Just because there's like more ways to get to know myself. It's just reminding me like how much I change as I get to know myself and become stronger and more able to endure and have greater capacity and grit. She's like that, that picture will populate. when you know, and I'm always growing and changing, right? Like we, most of us. Jina Seer (47:43.818) are trying are and she's like so you have to continue to do that and as you grow and change your counterbalance that picture will get clearer and clearer because as I grow and change there are some things that don't really change and like that's who I am that's what I need yeah and while you're in this space does she or any other version of you or any other guide have any messages for you with this intention in mind? Yeah, I kind of brought to the front of my mind just 2026 in general, just because I've kind of got a lot going on. And she was just like, it is all just a reinforcement of that expanding my capacity, but also for expanding my capacity on all levels, like knowing myself, intuition. Yeah, just kind of building the capacity to endure and strength and, just my ability to take care of myself. And she is, yeah, she's just kind of doubled, doubling down on. I can't say I like thought of it consciously before, even though it's like so obviously there, but she said all of that is an effort really to get to know yourself. Like, expand your awareness and strength and all of that. But in all of that, you're getting to know yourself. You're getting to know like what you're capable of. Yeah. And so much more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then I asked like, what if I don't make it? There's a good chance I fail. She's like, she's like, I know, but like, who will you be even through that? Like even through that, who will you be? Everything you want, not just romantic, just everything, the work, the friends, the life, it takes even more getting to know yourself to up level even more. And it's like, you got to go within and then it helps how you bloom on the outside. So to continually just like. Jina Seer (50:10.58) look at it like that as well as like this is a journey to get to know myself. Yeah, so just taking a moment to send love and gratitude to yourself, all versions of you who led you to this moment and loving gratitude to all versions of you moving forward. Just taking a deep breath in, anchoring all of this within you. Know that this wisdom is integrated and you'll remember everything. Whenever you're ready, gently return to the path. Slowly come back into your body, back into the present moment. Jina Seer (50:53.902) Whenever you're ready, open your eyes. Feeling refreshed and connected. Oh, that was such a good exercise stuff. The, um, whatever, having past versions of me come in. Yeah. So powerful. I just felt like the way that session turned out so much of it came from me looking back at those women. 15, 25, 35. Um, yeah. I mean, do you know the idea of a walk-in, right? Like a walk-in soul. I mean, I swear to God, I would claim walk-in of what happened to me, but it took so long. know, most walk-ins are like, I fell down and I woke up. was a different person, know, where mine's like, happened over the course of three to five years. I'm completely different. You know, it's just so wild. Like when you look back at pictures from say four or five years ago, or whenever you would say you were like, before you kind of like. started to morph into who you are now intentionally anyways. Like, is that is that a trip to look at those pictures? Like, how does that feel to you? At first, like a while back, it felt sad. I did feel sad looking back. And then I started doing this exercise that I shared with you today. And in doing so I recognized the strength in each of them. Like, yes, they, I did believe at the time that I knew everything. But it was that knowing and that belief that got me here. And so now I look back at it and I'm looking through curiosity because I believe the same thing you just said, the walk in thing, because I've had moments where I was completely different, the ebbs and flow of spirituality or our evolution. I think it is like other versions of ourselves, the more evolved version of ourselves standing there. Jina Seer (52:59.978) and just like popping in every once in a while and allowing us to merge with them. So it's like that little mix of, okay, it's just to keep us grounded. Otherwise, you'd be flying high somewhere else. So I think, yeah, they do pop in and out until we get to that, that completed version, which is where they're leading us. And looking back at those photos, I see me that I see me as I am today. in the memories that she experienced. Say that, say more. So if I pull up a photo, like the photo I have in my mind was when I was like 28 and just going on sick leave like right at the start of this whole thing and I didn't recognize her but since I'm I probably this year looking at that photo I see all of the versions of me leading to me in this moment, see myself now in her.