Hey everyone, it's Jina. You're listening to Seer Sessions. Today's episode is part number three of a three-parter. So if you haven't listened to the previous two episodes, go ahead and listen to those. I've been interviewing some people that I put into a hypnotic journey to a lifetime where they inhabited, embodied the most of their soul's wisdom. In the previous two episodes, you heard from two other people, their experiences.

And then I've been splicing in some commentary because I love to pick apart these sessions and say things like, but did you get it? Did you feel it? Did you see it? Isn't this awesome? And so that's what I've been doing. And like I've mentioned before, very soon, I'm going to start sharing multiple hypnotic journeys every single week. And so my hope is, is that commentary that I'm doing helps you kind of prime your mind, helps you have an

easier time navigating these hypnotic experiences, astral adventures, when you are at home on your own. Like I said, this is part three of three different episodes where we're discussing someone's experience in that hypnotic journey. Now, if you want to experience that hypnotic journey for yourself, I highly recommend it's episode 199.

and you can take your own journey and have your own experience in a lifetime with the version of you living a life where you embodied the most of your soul's wisdom. If you go and take your own journey, you know I want to know what you got. My email address is in the show notes. Today you're going to hear from my friend Erica. She has a way of making any endeavor magical really. And the way Sarah put it, you heard from Sarah in the previous episode,

She said, Erica, you make everything feel like a ritual. And it's true. This woman is so artistic, whether she's putting together a flower crown, drawing a picture that's super detailed and lifelike of a caterpillar doing a back bend with her bra off underneath the UFO as a logo for our solstice weekend. It was the best drawing that I could ever hope. I couldn't even draw that well. And she did it no big deal on the back of an airplane napkin.

Erica and I met years ago. She was first a client and for a while she had scheduled the session like every month for a series of months and we just kind of got to know each other. And I live in Arizona and she lives in LA and so one time she had said, if you're ever in LA, I'll show you around Griffith Park. And a few months later I was in LA and so I said, hey, want to do a walk this afternoon at Griffith Park?

and she showed me around. And so it just kind of became this habit and a friendship grew. And here we are taking this hypnotic journey. Okay, let's get into the discussion. All right, did you have a typical experience? Do want me to go through the questions? I do feel like the experience answered the majority of the questions. I showed up back in that druid's life, which was no surprise to me. Okay, back in the druid life. How do I explain this life?

First of all, when I am working with a client and they are experiencing another lifetime and I'm asking questions, as they answer, a picture is being populated in my own brain as I lead the session, keep track of what's going on, where have we been, where are we going? So that is the most common experience for me. Now with Erica, I have done many one-on-one hypnotic journeys with her to other lifetimes, but I've done

even more group journeys with her where we're going to another lifetime exploring and she's a part of a group where we're doing that. So at this point Erica is a person who has done so many experiences inside of other lifetimes that these experiences have begun to repeat themselves. I just want to say when we experience another lifetime that can be profound and life-changing like in big and in small ways.

And you wouldn't think so, but the same is true if you go back to that same lifetime. When you go back to that same life again, or more than two times, we can extract even more meaning out of that experience just because we have the whole backstory of the previous experience that we had in that other lifetime. Anyway, I could literally talk all day about that and give examples about it, but.

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With this in particular, this life as a druid, Erica has experienced it multiple times. And the first time I experienced myself in that lifetime with her, because I was a druid with her in that lifetime, she was telling me about the death scene, what was happening, who she was with, where people were positioned, where they were going. And as she was telling me this story, you know, I hear this stuff all the time.

And so I know what it feels like to hear someone else's story about their death scene and have the story populate my mind so I can continue to lead them on this journey, right? But in this instant, which is rare, I mean, I think this has happened for sure less than five times in my entire career and I've been doing this since 2018. When Erica was telling me about the death scene and what was happening, kind of the final moments in that life, I was having my...

own memories come in. And as she was talking, was like, yup, I'm standing in between you and the mound. Yep, I know that guy is over there. I see him too. Instead of having the story populate from her point of view, which naturally happens for me, I was having my own past life experience during this and it was so wild. And we have revisited that life in hypnosis, like I said, in group journeys and individual. We also corroborated stories on

the death scene, like actually how my life ended. She was actually there, she saw it. And she described the exact situation that I saw, like just really cool resonances and knowings about this life between us. And not only that, but in my membership group, Kinship, there was a number of Kinship members who were a part of this Druid community and had a similar experience.

And because we do these journeys so much and we had been at that point, some, when we were having this discussion, some of us kinship members had been journeying together like two, three years every month. I mean, that adds up. And so we were all having these, our own experiences and able to validate like, I saw this, what did that look like for you? And just a really cool experience. This druid life is so potent. And I really feel like,

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Erica has a story to tell between this life, some other life that she had that's very connected in the same part of earth, her family ancestry, a lot of things that unfolded for her in 2024. So my hope is that Erica eventually writes a book about it because it's really pretty incredible each individual lifetime, how they weave together in her experience of them and.

how she's like known that her whole life and just even the things she would do when she was a kid would draw direct lines to that knowing and that kind of knowing and anyway so the druid life is really really special it's really really potent but mostly i want you to know context for the story is that's why it all kind of sounds like we know what this druid life is it's because we know it and actually all of us in that room

were in that druid life way back in the very first century. I started in the roundhouse and the roundhouse itself it was so it felt very womb-like it was so like safe and warm and kind of red from like clay but there was a fire in the center and a cauldron suspended over the fire and I was probably I was young a young woman so

early, late teens, early twenties. And I was just kind of stirring whatever was in the cauldron and noticed the way the light caught the smoke. And then just kind of got lost in watching the smoke dance all the way up and then releasing out of the vent to the sky. And at first I was just kind of a little mesmerized by the smoke. And then I started to see faces.

and shapes, and then before I knew it, was pulled into another, pulled into a vision, so into this other realm almost.

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And at that point, I didn't stay long in that, but that was the first time that had happened. And then instantly, I started seeing hundreds of moments of me in that life throughout my life doing the same thing, but it's at different stages of at first that I accidentally went into the smoke. And then I see myself being mentored to learn how to really work with it as a craft.

Okay, so right now you might be thinking, this seems kind of like advanced shit. Like how does someone get this much information in a hypnotic journey? And yes, this is an advanced move and this could be your experience in your next hypnotic journey. It's not linear. Yes, the more you do it, the more information you get, the more comfortable you are, the more you understand, but that could happen in your next session.

or the next hypnotic journey that you listen to. So I wanna plant this seed because I'm gonna be sharing many, many hypnotic journeys. And so if you're ever in a situation like this where you're getting a bunch of information, I'll use Erica's example here. I would say, are you curious what the steps were in that training? Yes, you had the knowing that someone trained you how to do that even better, even more precisely. And do you wanna learn that now?

Could you go and get that information? Yes, you could. So let's say that Erica had this experience at home alone. If she was telling me about it, I would ask her if she knew the details of that training that she got. And if she didn't know the specific step-by-step details of that training, I would encourage her to sit in meditation.

or journal about that scene, about that knowing with the intention of getting even more information about what those lessons were like. What kind of things did you do? What kind of things did you visualize or work on? What was the belief system about that? How did that tie into your spiritual beliefs? Was it considered spiritual or is it just energetic? As I sit here listening to this, those are my simple questions. And so as we

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evolve as humans and have more and more of these experiences, it'll get easier and easier for the collective to have these experiences too. So if you're ever in a situation like that and you come out of it and you're like, man, I'd love to know the details of that thing that I understood in that other lifetime, meditate, journal, trust what comes to mind. And anytime we're opening up the channel, so to speak, where we're

getting into a meditative state and seeking information from the other side, I cannot express enough how important it is for you to connect to the divine, ground your energy down, and then protect your own energy around you. I'll share more about those details, like why we should do that in the future. But to me, it just keeps us safe. It keeps the intention clear in our vibration, our frequency elevated.

And that's just a great place to be, especially if we are snooping around these unseen realms. You know, we want to make sure that we are at a level, at a frequency level where we're attracting divine, benevolent beings. And so that's a higher frequency. So I'll tell you more about why we do that and kind of the details of it. But as far as the how, if you've listened to any of my hypnotic journeys,

There's always a part where we connect to the divine, where we ground our energy into the earth, and where we use our own light to shine out around us and protect that space. And that's what I'm talking about. That would be the practice of it. And again, you can catch that on any hypnotic journey that I do. In the moment, you kind of get used to it. You could just sit alone. You don't need me. And just think yourself through that. And then when you feel ready, then open up.

with your questions, with your intentions, and if you're journaling, journal that information. So that's just a little tip if you wanna elevate this experience even more. And then I see myself in a ritual surrounded by all of the other women in our group. And it was all of these different flashes of different ways that I would use this art of divination and go into the smoke.

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and where at first it was me accidentally being pulled. As I mastered the art of it, I could see myself projecting myself into the smoke, and it was coming from third eye, heart, and solar plexus, almost like a prism. And then I would go straight into another realm. And I would go to different places, especially if we had a certain question as a group.

You might be thinking, going different places, depending on the questions, what does that mean? Where are we going? And it's true. We can go in our awareness to different specific places and get specific answers about specific things, areas, situations in our life. About a year ago, I was in session with my higher self and my higher self had explained it to me.

when you would go to your higher self, when you would go to the Akashic records, the types of questions that you would go to your spirit guides with, or what about your ancestors if you want to experience them, where do you go for that? And it really illuminated kind of this map that was in my brain that I didn't even know was there, but had been built from all the hypnosis sessions I've done with clients, just exploring these different areas. I'll call that kind of

the structure of where we go when we're looking for certain things. And I'm gonna do an episode on that in the future, but it's something that I've been using with clients in their hypnosis sessions. If I have a repeat client, oftentimes they'll start with like, here's my intention, and then they'll wanna know, what do I think they should do? Do I think they should do a spirit guide session, higher self session, journey to another lifetime? And I've been using the structure that my higher self laid out for me. And it's been...

interesting to see how this has been unfolding for people. And yeah, once again, my clients are just continuing to prove these things to me because they always get what they need. It's always very unique and unexpected. would go to different places, especially if we had a certain question as a group. Sometimes it could be like a celebration and it was just kind of a fun thing to do. Sometimes there were there was a serious question.

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or hardship that we needed answers for. And I would go most of the time into this grove of elders. And I was surrounded by all of these older women who had once been the leader of this druidic grove. And they had a very like Calyat type of presence. And so I would...

project myself into the smoke and then into their grove and they were all sitting with the giant tree behind them and it was almost like they were also the tree but then their embodied virgin was sitting in front of it and I would ask my question and me as Erica was like what was I asking? What answers was I getting? And that at this point wasn't important. What Erica's talking about here is such a common occurrence this idea of the conscious mind.

kind of coming in with questions and curiosities. And sometimes the conscious mind will come in and try to make meaning out of things a little bit too early. And whenever you notice yourself doing that on a hypnotic journey, know that that's just what's happening. It's just that the conscious mind is like, hey, wait, let me, I'm trying to figure this out too. And there's, you have the rest of your life for that. So just acknowledge that you're doing it.

and then refocus your awareness, your attention, your thoughts, your emotions on whatever is coming to mind. So in this scene, it's exactly what Erica did. She felt those questions coming in. She knows that that's not the time for them. That's a conscious mind thing. It needs to happen. It should happen. It's a beautiful thing when it does happen. But when we're in the journey, when we're in that hypnotic trance, that's the time.

that we need to just be collecting information. Even if it seems crazy, even it seems weird, even if it doesn't make sense right now, just know our awareness just needs to brush up on as many details as possible. And by the end of the session, it'll make sense and your conscious mind will continue to think about it. If you let it, if you direct it to, will continue to extrapolate meaning from it if you want it to. But if you notice that conscious mind creeping in,

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just notice it and then redirect your attention to the journey, to the imagery, to the experience. But it was seeing my journey of accidentally falling into it and then being able to hone that skill and project myself and then being able to teach others and how that was passed on to me, I could pass it on. And whenever I would ask my questions, however they were answered, sometimes...

I wasn't supposed to know the answer, whenever that session with the Grove of Elders would come to a close, the leader would come up and put her hand on my forehead, and then I'd blink and be back in my body. And the main thing...

that I got from that for now is that I still have access to that gift, but it's something that is going to take a lot of time and a lot of presence and a lot of devotion and to not give up on it when it feels impossible. But it is definitely a practice that needs to be done with intention and reverence and respect.

but there's a chance to get back to that grove of elders and actually ask them questions and not witness myself asking throughout various points of that lifetime. You might think it's a little wild being in a trance state, experiencing another lifetime where you would access the trance state, but friends, let me tell you, that's just one corner of weird that I deal with regularly.

So yes, the idea of someone experiencing another lifetime where they are also experiencing trance and exploring these unseen realms, other dimensions, it's not common, but I at this point have lost count how many times it's happened. People have been doing this for millennia, intentionally, unintentionally, with plant medicine, without plant medicine. Anyway, I just wanna say, this sounds weird, but it's not that weird.

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but for that, I had already seen the death scene several times, so that didn't feel important to revisit. But thinking about it afterwards, the most important element of that death scene was standing in the flames and being burned alive and being like, I feel so much pity for you. You think you have control over me by burning me in this fire, but you don't know I am that fire. And then seeing myself.

using the fire and the smoke and even the way the lives were the way I was seeing the lives overlaid on top of each other like flashes felt very much like flickering firelight. Oh wow. So that definitely felt very full circle. Because Erica has visited that death scene a number of times and it was pretty violent as you can imagine by her short description but what I wanted to really highlight

is the feeling she had when she was experiencing that death scene. And the feeling was she was being burned at the stake. And the feeling was a lot of compassion and just these people don't know their power and they don't know that they can't kill me. It was kind of like her, like she had this greater knowing and such a connection to nature, to the elements, to that fire that was burning her.

that she wasn't even emotionally rattled by it in her experience of it. And in any death scene, part of the queuing for the hypnotist to cue the client through the death scene or through the time that soul leaves that body, once her soul had left that body and she was reflecting on that life, she could see that the moment her soul left that body, her body started to like wail and scream.

And I remember her highlighting this difference of it was her soul's influence on that earth suit, on that mind that kept her strong and steady and not in pain. In the moment that part of that three part being that she was body, mind, soul, the moment it was just the body there, the body just reacted primally. And it was just a very interesting.

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kind of shift and reflection on that time in that life. And another reason why I wanted to bring that up is because a lot of times people don't take an experience in another lifetime because they're afraid of what they're going to experience. And I've talked about it so much over these 200 plus episodes. But if that's you, if you're still nervous about it,

Pay attention to that, take care of yourself, maybe do it while someone's home with you, they're not gonna bother you, let them know what you're doing, tell them to like wake you up in an hour or something like that might make you feel better. But as far as what you're going to experience when you're in that trance state, you're working in that subconscious mind and you're working in an incredibly relaxed state, grounded, calm, peaceful.

And so those two things, your subconscious mind, which is there to protect you, and your calm, relaxed state, I believe it's those two things. And knowing that even though we're experiencing it, we know it's not our lifetime, we know it's not the present moment, we can still experience something that's pretty traumatic in a life and not be traumatized by witnessing it.

in this life. We kind of set the scene so you're open to experience it but you're still protected and you can express emotion and feel emotion but if it's anything that would cause harm your subconscious mind is going to keep it blurry, it's going to not give you that information. So even though this is hypnotic trance and we're all trained to believe that I am hypnotizing you and I'm doing something to you and it's

not in your control. What is happening on these hypnotic tracks in this podcast is actually self-hypnosis. I can't hypnotize you against your will. It's actually a type of hypnosis that I'm not interested at all. I want you to exercise your free will. And it's actually very important to me that I don't trample your free will or anyone else's. So just know that you're safe. The intention behind the creation of those tracks is

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with you to inhabit a higher frequency and know that even though I'm guiding the journey, you at any moment can have your own experience or you can just shut it off and walk away. But certainly if you follow the visualization, follow the steps, listen to the hypnotic journey, you're gonna go somewhere and get something that's compassionate, loving, insightful. It will expand your awareness and shift your point of view.

if you let it. So are you saying that as Erica you could, I mean I believe you could, go back to the Grove of Elders just as likely as you could in that life. It's just kind of like what kind of filter are you working with today and kind of figuring that out. Did you get that sense it's like just a matter of you understanding how you do it with that earth suit and then you can go there and ask any question you want?

Yes, but the process to learn that skill and to truly not even master it, because I don't think I would be able to do that in this lifetime, but even to get to the point where I wasn't being pulled in, but I had control over projecting myself into it, would be a harder journey in this lifetime, because in the Druid life, there were no outside distractions.

It was, I was living in that mindset from the moment I opened my eyes to the, even, you know, throughout the dream. So there's really no, no outside distractions that I had to like sit and ground myself and meditate to get to a certain place. I was just always in it. We all were. That was just the way that we lived. So now there are almost more obstacles to overcome. It'll just take a lot of patience.

Do you think you're accessing their wisdom without going there? I think so. And the reason that I wasn't surprised that the highest embodiment of my higher self was this Druid life is because in previous meditations and hypnotic journeys where I've met with my higher self, sometimes it's embodied as that Druid. And I feel like the same way that she embodies my higher self and I can talk to her face to face.

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She almost embodies all of the elders that came before her. So she almost already has all of those same answers and those same qualities. So the way that she embodies my higher self, she also embodies that whole world and way of living. So yes, but it's a little bit different. Oftentimes, I think it's easy for an earthling to think every life we evolve, every life we get better.

and I'm the most evolved in this life. And maybe, I mean, I'm open to all of it. No one really knows. We're not gonna know until our soul leaves this body. And even then, maybe we won't know. Everything I've explored, everything I've experienced with clients, everything I've heard from clients, all the books I've read, other people's spiritual journeys, I can't fully conceptualize it with my brain.

But if I had to guess, I would guess all of it's happening at once. So I'm not going back into a past life. It feels like a past life because I'm accessing it through what we call a memory and 3D Earth 2025. When we think of a memory, it's an access, it's a window, it's a tie to our past.

So I think that's why it can feel like a lifetime in the past. And then also we count the years, it's 2025. If I experience a lifetime and it's 1720, according to third dimension earth, that is hundreds of years ago. So that is in my past as Jina, but when I'm accessing the wisdom of the soul, my experiences as a soul, it's all happening at once.

So it's not that someone's ahead and someone's behind and I'm on this march of linear progression. That's not how it is in the spirit world. So to go back to the first century to like 60 AD, I believe is the year we pinpointed at one point, Erica said something about the year 60 AD for that life. So yeah, that could be her life where she embodied the most.

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of her soul's wisdom. What do you take from that? Like, how does that shift you today? Does it change the way you might think of getting this information? Or I know you journal in the morning. Does that shift where you might direct that intention? Does that change you in any way based on what you're already doing? It feels like the biggest takeaway from all of this wasn't necessarily the Grove. That was one place I would go often. It was the act of

learning how to project from third eye heart solar plexus and it would come to a point like a prism and then I could go anywhere from there and maybe right now I was seeing the grove so clearly that I can use that as an anchor point as I begin to practice and lean into it but really it's the practice itself and how that is limitless and it's almost like a form of

It not almost it is a form of astral travel. Yes. And do you get the sense that you in that life called it projection? Or did you?

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Do you get a sense of what you call that or how you conceptualized it? And I'm imagining it was like attached to your spirituality. And do you get a sense of that? I didn't call it projection. That's definitely through my lenses, Erica. It even almost looking at myself looked like there was a projector coming out of me and projecting my soul into these different.

sometimes realms, dimensions, actual physical locations, points in time. Sometimes I could see the future events. I didn't call it projection then though. It was almost a sense of merging, merging my soul with whatever plane I needed to be on to receive the answers I needed at that time. I don't know if there was really a word for it. It was just this sense of almost.

dissolving yourself enough to merge with where you need it to be. For some reason, the term astral projection just never really resonated with me. the way you described the prism and then you called it projection, it was like, OK, that aligns. Like you're projecting your energy in there. Where before, for some reason, it didn't really resonate. So that's why I wondered, like, was that like a thing you felt like they called it?

But you get the sense that it's just like, hey, can you Google this? But you're like, you know. Standing over a fire just like sold into the smoke. Is that kind of what it was? A druid Google. Essentially. OK, good. Druid Google. TM. All right, everybody, that is our episode. Thank you so much for being here and listening.

If you thought of a friend while you were listening to this, I would love it if you sent them this episode. Word of mouth, by far, you people are the best things pushing my podcast forward. So I can't thank you enough for being here. And Erica, thank you so much for letting us listen in on this reflection on your hypnotic journey. If you wanna learn more about my work, go to seersessions.com.